Wall of Force Isn't Impervious!

[Lysander]

Huh. Check this out.

Passing through a wall of force is a DC120 Escape Artist check:

Pass through Wall of Force

This allows a character to find a gap of weakness in a wall of force (or similar force effect) and squeeze through it.

So force effects are not entirely solid. Does that mean that water can pass through? Fine grains of sand or dust? Non-magical gasses and fog?

[Sstoopidtallkid]

So force effects are not entirely solid. Does that mean that water can pass through? Fine grains of sand or dust? Non-magical gasses and fog?

or is Epic simply broken? Remember, DC 80 allows you to hide in a space too small for you to fit. That means you are easily breaking geometry already, so passing through a solid object seems entierly reasonable.

For certain definitions of 'reasonable', at least.

[Boci]

Does that mean that water can pass through? Fine grains of sand or dust? Non-magical gasses and fog?

Sure. If they can make the DC: 120 check.

[SparkMandriller]

Not unless the fog can make a DC 120 check!


boci i am going to get you

[dsmiles]

Epic is simply broken. Remember, DC 80 allows you to hide in a space too small for you to fit. That means you are easily breaking geometry already, so passing through a solid object seems entierly reasonable.

For certain definitions of 'reasonable', at least.

Fixed it for you.

[Kobold-Bard]

I love the Epic Skill checks. They must have frun out of Red Bull when they were setting the DCs.

"Ah just throw a handful of dice, use whatever shows up. I'm going to sleep."*

*Dramatisation (may not have happened).

[dsmiles]

@ Kobold Bard: Crack...not Red Bull...straight up crack.

[FMArthur]

So... how does one successfully make a DC 120 Escape Artist check pre-epic?

[Kobold-Bard]

So... how does one successfully make a DC 120 Escape Artist check pre-epic?

I really don't think it's doable. Perhaps that class that lets you use one skill as another (Exemplar?), use the Jumplomancer guide but trade Jump into Escape Artist.

Perhaps.

[Pharaoh's Fist]

Escape Artist doesn't get a bonus from speed, though.

[Eloel]

I really don't think it's doable. Perhaps that class that lets you use one skill as another (Exemplar?), use the Jumplomancer guide but trade Jump into Escape Artist.

Perhaps.

Exemplar only lets you do stuff instead of Diplomancy, not 'one as another'.


Also, try Shadow Form spell (from SC), easier passing through Wall of Force.

[Milskidasith]

I jump 380 feet through the wall of force, forcing everybody around to be fanatic about me in the process.

[Douglas]

So... how does one successfully make a DC 120 Escape Artist check pre-epic?

Aid another. 100 allies (really small animated objects are best, usually) making aid another checks to boost your check.

[Lysander]

Hear music from an epic bard that's taken Epic Inspiration many many times?

Level 1 Commoner: Wow, that's the most beautiful thing I have ever heard! Time to phase through this force field!

[Closak]

Talking about epic skill checks.

What about the guy who rolled a 238 for his Diplomacy check on the big angry fire breathing super dragon that was about to fry him and the rest of the whole damned country just a few seconds beforehand?

Blasted dragon went straight from "I KILL YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU EVER CARED ABOUT!" to willing slave in an instant.


...Wut?
Ridiculous diplomacy is ridiculous.

[Sstoopidtallkid]

DC 120? Artificer works, of course. Other than that, Catfolk Rogue 1/Cleric 19. 23(Ranks)+14(Dex)+30(item)+5(Feats)+25(Moment of Prescience)=97 And that's Core(other than Race). I'm sure that there's +13 elsewhere so you do it by taking 10.

[Emmerask]

So... how does one successfully make a DC 120 Escape Artist check pre-epic?

Well outside of very specific builds
there is the very very small chance if you are using open ended rolls houserule (if you roll a twenty you roll again and add)

[deuxhero]

Didn't /tg/ have a thread about how to optimize Escape Artist to crawl inside of people?

[Kobold-Bard]

Didn't /tg/ have a thread about how to optimize Escape Artist to crawl inside of people?

Yes they did. Now never speak of it again <shudders>

[Emmerask]

wasn´t that the assplomancer or somesuch?

[Sstoopidtallkid]

Didn't /tg/ have a thread about how to optimize Escape Artist to crawl inside of people?

DC 80 is doable pre-epic with no particular optimization. Catfolk Rogue with a +30 item and max dex and ranks grabs you +67. Just out of range for taking 12, though.

[Closak]

Player A: I crawl inside the dragons ass using Escape Artist

DM: ...What?

Player B: *Facepalm*

Player C: I start running.

[Deth Muncher]

Yes they did. Now never speak of it again <shudders>

Leave it to 4chan to figure out how to use Escape Artist to get into people's butts. I mean, 4chan IS called the "---hole of the Internet" for a reason. (Alternatively, Interbutts.)

[Kobold-Bard]

DC 80 is doable pre-epic with no particular optimization. Catfolk Rogue with a +30 item and max dex and ranks grabs you +67. Just out of range for taking 12, though.

Skill improvement items don't go above +10 pre-Epic I thought.

[The Glyphstone]

The pre-existing ones don't, but Epic Items are defined as having a skill check bonus of greater than +30. It just has to be a custom item, but +30 is non-Epic.

[Bayar]

wasn´t that the assplomancer or somesuch?

It was called the Spelunker, and it used a DC 80 Escape artist check to crawl up someone's *******.

It is still archived...I could link it here, but GitP is less amused by this kind of shenanagins than Gleemax was.

[Sstoopidtallkid]

Player A: I crawl inside the dragons ass using Escape Artist

DM: ...What?

Player B: *Facepalm*

Player C: I start running.

Goddammit, Red Mage...

[dsmiles]

I wonder how much damage you can do from in there...perforated colon...dysentary...

Nevermind, I don't want to think about it anymore...

[Pharaoh's Fist]

It was called the Spelunker, and it used a DC 80 Escape artist check to crawl up someone's *******.

And this makes your victim target fanatical for you.

[Closak]

Goddammit, Red Mage...

Exactly.

But did he have to do it on a friggin dragon the size of a small mountain?

And this is the same guy who got everyone killed by sexually harassing a Pit Fiend at level 13 in another campaign.

How many TPK's have his antics caused? I lost count.


Step 1: Party wizard decides that taking a trip to the lower planes is a good idea.

Step 2: Party wizard finds nearest Pit Fiend and starts hitting on it.

Step 3: ???

Step 4: TPK