OOTS #701 - The Discussion Thread

[Gift Jeraff]

Every hobgoblin cleric seems to have the same blue cloak. Exceptions are the former Supreme Leader and Jirix (last we saw him), whose are still bluish. (The brown cloaked hobbo was a wizard, apparently.)

[Kumo]

Every hobgoblin cleric seems to have the same blue cloak. Exceptions are the former Supreme Leader and Jirix (last we saw him), whose are still bluish. (The brown cloaked hobbo was a wizard, apparently.)

Jirix isn't neccesarily a cleric =/ Don't forget, the wizard had a "holy symbol" too.

EDIT: I hereby nominate Jirix as the best minor character on team evil.

[Gift Jeraff]

Jirix isn't neccesarily a cleric =/ Don't forget, the wizard had a "holy symbol" too.

In DStP, Rich says that, in his mind, Jirix is the same cleric who was with Redcloak and Xykon in the throne room.

EDIT: I'm tempted to agree with that notion, but the existence of the booted wight prevents me to do so.

[Kumo]

In DStP, Rich says that, in his mind, Jirix is the same cleric who was with Redcloak and Xykon in the throne room.

EDIT: I'm tempted to agree with that notion, but the existence of the booted wight prevents me to do so.

Best minor character with a name?

lol... seriously though. I like Jirix the best, for some strange reason.

[Teleporker]

i most likely will when i get a debit/credit card...

And the red cloak is the high priest of the dark one's cloak. If there IS a Bluecloak somewhere, he's the high priest of a different god. Maybe the twelve gods, come to think of it?

I kinda meant the comment in the sense of Redcloak having some unknown little brother somewhere that is going to end up killing him like he killed Right-eye. You know, just for the fun of yet another conspiracy theory geared towards an imaginary ironic ending for him.

"Bluecloak" was just the first name I could imagine for a relative of Reddie. I might as well have come up with "ElectricLimeGreenCloak". I'm actually kinda flattered by the "High priest of some other deity" idea.

Maybe he's a high priest of Banjo! Yay!
Not-Nale wrong! Bluecloak is Giggles high-poobah!

[Kumo]

I kinda meant the comment in the sense of Redcloak having some unknown little brother somewhere that is going to end up killing him like he killed Right-eye. You know, just for the fun of yet another conspiracy theory geared towards an imaginary ironic ending for him.

"Bluecloak" was just the first name I could imagine for a relative of Reddie. I might as well have come up with "ElectricLimeGreenCloak". I'm actually kinda flattered by the "High priest of some other deity" idea.

Maybe he's a high priest of Banjo! Yay!
Not-Nale wrong! Bluecloak is Giggles high-poobah!

Meh. It's not terribly realistic.

It'd be kind of a cool twist if Jirix was related to redcloak in some way (like actually being half-goblin or being adopted or something) but it's not likely, and frankly, if he introduced redcloak's brother his only real purpose would be to kill Redcloak, and that's a horrible anticlimax.

[StClair]

"sieg!"
"haaaaaaaaah"
"sieg!"
"haaaaaaaaah"

[Evil Mustache]

I read this comic with a friend over for the next two hours we kept saying to eachother:

'You hold something AND move it. ... At the same time!'

We kept cracking up and laughed at how mundane the MitD is with her.

[Temotei]

I don't know if anyone pointed this out, but one goblin reminds me of Thog.



The only difference is his/her face has his/her eyes closed.

Left side of panel.

I don't know why the other goblins didn't remind me of Thog...just the one. They have similar faces.

[Code Black]

Something tells me this isn't going to go well. An emotionally conflicted character with conflict between he feels is right and what he feels he must do about to talk to a crowd of people who idealistically believe he's about to say something in their favor even though in all likelyhood he might not?

This should be interesting. And sad, if that little talk to Right-Eye is any indication.

[factotum]

I kinda meant the comment in the sense of Redcloak having some unknown little brother somewhere that is going to end up killing him like he killed Right-eye.

That would be really terrible writing. How would Redcloak not know he had another brother? I don't think it works particularly well on the "ironic death" front, either. Personally, I still hope Redcloak gets redeemed somehow before all this is over, but he's going to have to develop a much thicker spine than he's shown to date to be able to do that.

[bsparrow]

I kinda meant the comment in the sense of Redcloak having some unknown little brother somewhere that is going to end up killing him like he killed Right-eye. You know, just for the fun of yet another conspiracy theory geared towards an imaginary ironic ending for him.

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a niece. Who we've yet to see outside SoD, iirc.

Does that count?

[Grot._Arachnid]

Awesome comic. The assembled Goblin masses look awesome, the MitD singing cracked me up. Nice dramatic moment for Redcloak with the mirror, and I love how he looks so down in front of the cheering crowd.

[Kish]

i most likely will when i get a debit/credit card...

And the red cloak is the high priest of the dark one's cloak. If there IS a Bluecloak somewhere, he's the high priest of a different god. Maybe the twelve gods, come to think of it?

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A newly ordained cleric of the Dark One wears a white cloak. The worldwide leader of the Dark One's religion wears the singular Crimson Mantle. Blue-cloaked goblin priests are probably somewhere in the middle, along with yellow-cloaked ones, green-cloaked ones, and so on.

[Selene]

Well, he does have

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a niece. Who we've yet to see outside SoD, iirc.

Does that count?

Yes, you're right. RC is also perfectly aware of that. So yeah, I'd say it counts.

[frogspawner]

Why would they need him to pull a rope? Sounds weird.

Because Lord Xykon (indirectly) ordered it... OOTS662 (last panel).

[TheBlackShadow]

Slightly worrying that we haven't seen Xykon since that strip. Makes me wonder precisely how pissed he is, and what he's actually up to (I don't really see him crawling on his hands and knees through the sewers when he has thousands of perfectly good IPGEL or Undead mooks to do it for him, and he doesn't seem happy with staying put and doing nothing, so what's he up to?).

[Kzickas]

How cute. Azure City has become a goblinoid Mecca.

a goblinoid something yes, but there's a real world equivalent that matches the goblins' relation to Azure City a lot better than Mecca. Going into specifics would probably breach the rule against real world politics though, and comparing real world people to the evil goblins probably counts as flaming so I'll not get into details

[Teleporker]

Well, he does have

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a niece. Who we've yet to see outside SoD, iirc.

Does that count?

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A niece? As in Right-eye's daughter? If he's got no more brothers, then there is an actual possibility for at least some bad blood between her and Redcloak.

That is, unless she did not like her dad or something along those lines.

I so have to get that book now!

Ahhh... the crackpot conspiracy thickens!

[SoC175]

And the red cloak is the high priest of the dark one's cloak. If there IS a Bluecloak somewhere, he's the high priest of a different god. Maybe the twelve gods, come to think of it?

There was a high priest of the twelve gods.

[BillyJimBoBob]

Dunno if anybody else noticed this, but in the splash panel there is one goblin whose greenish tint is slightly off. His skin is lighter, and I point this out, because as far as I have seem, everything has the same color palette. I've never seen a goblin or hobgoblin have a different shade of coloring without them being a plot-worthy character.

Perhaps ol' Split-Pea here is a new NPC, or perhaps a Doppleganger! GASP!

Yes, hes slightly different colored

Could be a half breed, could be a goblin with a tan. Who knows.

[And many others]
Poor Rich. He can't even vary a color palate by a few shades without providing a fertile breeding ground for the epileptic trees.
It's Celia in disguise!
It's so sad.
Or it's a member of Team Peregrine, ready to cast AOE spells on the gathered Hob/Goblin masses!
Really.
No, no, I've got it! It's a completely new, never before hinted at new menace, far, far more evil than Zycon(sic) could ever be! Everyone is doomed, DOOMED I TELL YOU!!!

[RickDaily12]

Returning to my earlier theory about a potiential splash attack on all these Hobgoblins...

Ofc I meant this was going to happen when all four key Team Evil members were away from the source of the attack at the time. Xykon, Redcloak, MiTD and Tsuikiko probably wouldn't be there at the inst of the attack (Jirix? has he been raised yet?)

And Remember, their first priority was visiting the unified new Resistance... perhaps they'll also be involved in a potiential surprise attack?

[Kumo]

There was a high priest of the twelve gods.

maybe a new one? =3

[elonin]

Has Redcloak changed his mind about how he feels about Xyrcon? He probably knows what the amulet was but didn't do anything about it knowing that with it destroyed they could do something about Xyrcon.

[Kumo]

Has Redcloak changed his mind about how he feels about Xyrcon? He probably knows what the amulet was but didn't do anything about it knowing that with it destroyed they could do something about Xyrcon.

... are you talking about the phylactery? The one redcloak actually told us about at the end of the first story arc? >.>

[dsavereide]

If they've found the phylactery (or made a new one?), then they'll be teleporting to the next gate soon. Which means they aren't taking the goblin horde with them. So this city is Redcloak's legacy to them. He has been stalling for months now trying to ensure they will be able to maintain their hold here. It'll be interesting to see what he has to say, but I fear another scene shift.

[Kumo]

If they've found the phylactery (or made a new one?), then they'll be teleporting to the next gate soon. Which means they aren't taking the goblin horde with them. So this city is Redcloak's legacy to them. He has been stalling for months now trying to ensure they will be able to maintain their hold here. It'll be interesting to see what he has to say, but I fear another scene shift.

It's only been 3 chapters, it'll be a while before the next scene shift. Maybe after Tsukiko tells MiTD that the cloister is blocking O'Chul?

Also: the scrying sensor has the same color magic as one of the hobgoblin clerics that healed redcloak near the end of the Azure City under siege arc.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0465.html

[Teleporker]

If they've found the phylactery (or made a new one?), then they'll be teleporting to the next gate soon. Which means they aren't taking the goblin horde with them. So this city is Redcloak's legacy to them. He has been stalling for months now trying to ensure they will be able to maintain their hold here. It'll be interesting to see what he has to say, but I fear another scene shift.

I don't think Xykon can make a new phylactery. That requires transferring your entire life force into it. As far as I know, you can't split it "a la Voldemort".

Whatever it is Redcloak is going to tell them, he's not happy about. You can see it in his face.

The hobbos sure will be left behind though. Xykon doesn't have "Epic Teleport" in his spell list, does he?

[Kumo]

I don't think Xykon can make a new phylactery. That requires transferring your entire life force into it. As far as I know, you can't split it "a la Voldemort".

Whatever it is Redcloak is going to tell them, he's not happy about. You can see it in his face.

The hobbos sure will be left behind though. Xykon doesn't have "Epic Teleport" in his spell list, does he?

If he did, he would've simply done that instead of just walking the whole way to the Azure City countryside

[Conuly]

That requires transferring your entire life force into it.

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Actually, as Xykon said at the time, his soul lives in his body until and unless his body is destroyed. It doesn't stay in the phylactery.

Then again, he may have been bluffing to convince RC it was a waste of time to destroy the phylactery, at least for long enough for him to get some decent back-up plans in place....