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[3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
Elf Disguise. Is it just me, or is this spell worth less than the goggles?
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Re: [3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
I no longer actively read the forums, and probably won't respond to any PMs. I'm fine with people using my homebrew in anything, including fan-compilations and wikis, as long as you credit me.
Homebrew by The Demented One.
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2010-02-17, 12:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
It's only use is pretty much given in the description. Drow use it to disguise theirself as surface elves. Since they have elf like structure (being elves) with the skin, hair, and eye color changes, they look like a surface elf.
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2010-02-17, 12:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
but at the point you could keep it up for 24 hours (ECL 4 for a sorc, ECL 7 for a wiz. take some from bonus slots for high ability scores) you can afford a hat of disquise and not blow all your spell slots.
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2010-02-17, 12:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
It would work better as a cantrip. Too specialized and ineffective for a first level spell.
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2010-02-17, 01:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
But with things like disguises, unlike most other spells, is that you usually know ahead of time that you'll need it. At least within the spell's duration. Thus it's one major disadvantage is negated. Otherwise, you simply prepare something else. So, ya, get it if you'll need it, don't if you won't. Simple.
Oh, and a bunch of 25 gp scrolls of elf disguise is cheaper than a hat of disguide if it comes down to money, unless you plan on spending weeks in the disguise. The hat of disguise does not become affordable until at least level 6 or 7, maybe 8-9 since it's only a utility item.Last edited by ericgrau; 2010-02-17 at 01:41 AM.
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2010-02-17, 01:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
This spell amuses me.
Mainly because while copying out the entire beguiler spell list, I accidentally gave my character a spell named Disguise Elf. Which was, coincidentally, used to disguise his elven nature.
EDIT: Actually, this spell would have been pretty useful.Last edited by Studoku; 2010-02-17 at 01:59 AM.
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2010-02-17, 01:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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What gets me is, without giving a bonus to the skill check, how is this any different than just making a normal disguise check? Isn't this just a waste of a spell?
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2010-02-17, 01:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-17, 02:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Clerics get it, if that's any consolation for the waste of a spell slot.
Then again, the trickery domain gives disguise self...but if you don't have that, then this spell is available.Last edited by Temotei; 2010-02-17 at 02:02 AM.
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2010-02-17, 02:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-17, 07:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
Technically useful, but practically...not much.
It's sort of like the spell Detect Undead. It's just too specific, especially considering that most undead are blatantly obvious anyhow.
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2010-02-17, 07:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
Originally Posted by peacenlove
Originally Posted by SRDLast edited by TheCountAlucard; 2010-02-17 at 07:25 AM.
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2010-02-17, 07:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-17, 07:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
Uh, ignoring a rule is not the same as following the rules.
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2010-02-17, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
It's one of those niche spells--not at all useful unless you are playing a drow character. However, if you do fall in the right niche, it can be very useful. This is the kind of spell that a DM loves more than a player loves. It is useful on NPCs who masquerade as normal elves. A drow scouting party sent to the surface as spies for a few hours of reconnaissance can be interesting. Of course it doesn't solve all the problems of being a drow but it mitigates it. And if nothing else, it's a spell that you can use in dealing with drow--let them get a hold of it and see what happens.
Not all spells are created equal. Some will be more useful than others based on the kind of game you play in. If you tend to favor more combat and less espionage, this spell won't be as interesting or useful.
DebbyLast edited by Debihuman; 2010-02-17 at 09:58 AM.
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Please, please, please when using non-core material, cite to the books. There are too many books to wade through to find the one with the feat, special ability or spell you use.
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2010-02-17, 10:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Am I missing something, or does this spell do nothing?
On the other hand, Soul Charge looks like fun. Vile, soul stealing evil, necromantic, fun.
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2010-02-17, 11:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Changing a character's whole appearance with Prestidigitation seems a bit beyond the scope of a cantrip to me.
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