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    Okay, is there any item other than brilliant energy weapons that work like a lightsaber? Brilliant energy doesn't really work since it doesn't harm constructs, undead or objects.

    Is there anything else that'd work? Or somethng that makes the "cannot harm undead constructs or objects" not apply?

    This is for a build I'm trying to make to replicate Jedi in D&D. I'm also going to make a Sith just for the heck of it.
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    It will most certainly be a touch weapon, seeing as how only special materials or energy fields can stop it. Of course, a lot of dense materials can add a lot of resistance against the light saber. And no, Adamantine does not equal Cortosis or Phrik.
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    Are you going for the glowy bit or the "can slice through anything" bit or the "can parry energy blasts" bit?

    I seem to recall when you enchant a weapon with +1, you can decide if it glows a certain color. At least that's the way my old group used to do it. A whip that glows black is awesome.

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    The Angelwing Razor does this quite nicely. *evil grin* All you need to do is have it glow red and it fits a sith perfectly. Its from the Book of Vile Darkness btw. *Maniacle laugh* Although, it is an artifact, so you may need to do some diplomancy on your dm.
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    Persistent Wraithstrike + Arcane Strike + Spell Storing Weapon should do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkov View Post
    And no, Adamantine does not equal Cortosis or Phrik.
    But it is close to beskar, the nigh-invulnerable Mandalorian Iron that's one of the other few substances that resist lightsabers.

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    Mostly going for the "can slice through anything" bit. Although slicing through most things and being all glowy would work well enough.

    I'll look at the angel wing razor in a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mando Knight View Post
    But it is close to beskar, the nigh-invulnerable Mandalorian Iron that's one of the other few substances that resist lightsabers.
    Those substances laugh at multigigaton shots. Adamantine is laughably weak when compared to Star Wars supersubstances.
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    Well, there is the Rod of Force in the MiC that was inspired by the Lightsaber, and it's the literal descendant of the Wand of Force from the old 1e Unearthed Arcana.

    Or you could just use the stats for the Lightsaber in the Star Wars D20 game (or Saga edition if you're playing 4e), and refluff it to say that it's magic or psionics that's powering it.

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    There's a 3rd level cleric spell in some Forgotten Realms handbook (don't remember), called "Moonlight saber" or something like that. It allows you to wield a scimitar made of light to deliver touch attacks with some bonus damage to all enemies and objetcts.

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    The Sun blade deals damage as a bastard sword, but is as light as a short sword. It's not Brilliant Energy.


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    Well, there is the Rod of Force in the MiC that was inspired by the Lightsaber, and it's the literal descendant of the Wand of Force from the old 1e Unearthed Arcana.

    Or you could just use the stats for the Lightsaber in the Star Wars D20 game (or Saga edition if you're playing 4e), and refluff it to say that it's magic or psionics that's powering it.
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    The OT clearly establishes that lightsabers do not cut through everything (watch luke bounce his saber off of railings, and, more importantly, vaders shoulder).

    So, it doesn't need to be super utlra powerful

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    That's why Wraithstrike is the way to go. It only cuts through nearly everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybren View Post
    The OT clearly establishes that lightsabers do not cut through everything (watch luke bounce his saber off of railings, and, more importantly, vaders shoulder).

    So, it doesn't need to be super utlra powerful
    The Star Wars d20 rules replicate this quite nicely, since any actual cutting through something is generally a critical hit since it is the basis for the Vitality and Wound poitns system in the SRD. And in the case of objects, like the railing, the damage wasn't more than the object's hit points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybren View Post
    The OT clearly establishes that lightsabers do not cut through everything (watch luke bounce his saber off of railings, and, more importantly, vaders shoulder).

    So, it doesn't need to be super utlra powerful
    Saga justs has Lightstabers ignore all DR (except for that Force DR ability) that cost a Force point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalnawr View Post
    Well, there is the Rod of Force in the MiC that was inspired by the Lightsaber, and it's the literal descendant of the Wand of Force from the old 1e Unearthed Arcana.

    Or you could just use the stats for the Lightsaber in the Star Wars D20 game (or Saga edition if you're playing 4e), and refluff it to say that it's magic or psionics that's powering it.
    Actually, I think that psionics would be the closest thing you could get to Force powers, so a psionic weapon could work.

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    "I don't see a Lightsaber. I see a psionic spirit blade."

    I feel like if you gave it some sort of insanely powerful sundering power, and fluffed it as cutting right through...

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    Somewhere, in a book that used the cover of I think the Arms and Equipment Guide (whichever one was gray) in the back there was a weapon called the "no-sword". The idea was that it's essentially so thin and sharp you can't even see it past the handle, but it cuts through virtually anything (costs a lot if I remember).

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    can't seem to find black blade of disaster. Could you at least narrow it to a specific spell list?

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    What's that on PrC in complete arcane. It's like something blade of heronious or whatever the god of paladins are.

    There's also kensai. I only point those out because they are lawful classes that would let you get a cool possibly sword like weapon weapon that you may choose to have act like a lightsaber.

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    soulknife to kensai? don't know if it works and you'd probably suck anyway, but .... cool concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuubi View Post
    Okay, is there any item other than brilliant energy weapons that work like a lightsaber? Brilliant energy doesn't really work since it doesn't harm constructs, undead or objects.

    Is there anything else that'd work? Or somethng that makes the "cannot harm undead constructs or objects" not apply?

    This is for a build I'm trying to make to replicate Jedi in D&D. I'm also going to make a Sith just for the heck of it.
    No.

    Besides, what's the difference between a sword and a lightsaber other than the setting?

    Besides, lightsabers would cut through actual swords and shields, so it's not like swordsmanship is involved when you can just slice through an opponent's defenses so easily.

    The lightsaber is a sword, in terms of its purpose in the plot. It can just be a ridiculously powerful weapon, but that's missing the point, I think.
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    A forgotten realms spell called Force Lance. Granted its a 12' force weapon but it does the job as a lightsaber. Oh and it doesnt have to be 12' long. Just make a wand of force lance. And its a touch attack. Its pritty bad ass.

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    Are you going for the glowy bit or the "can slice through anything" bit or the "can parry energy blasts" bit?

    I seem to recall when you enchant a weapon with +1, you can decide if it glows a certain color. At least that's the way my old group used to do it. A whip that glows black is awesome.
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    No.

    Besides, what's the difference between a sword and a lightsaber other than the setting?
    I want to use one and not the other?

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