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    Default Ways to become immortal (3.5)

    My google-fu has failed me. Is there a list anywhere online for how a 3.5 character can achieve immortality (or effects similar to it) by RAW?

    Obviously there's "become a lich", and I am aware of the uses of reincarnation to create yourself a new young adult body any time you die, I just wondered if there were any more tricks or cheese that could extend the natural life of a character.

    I am also aware of the Omniscifier and Pun-Pun, so let's leave them out.
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    Default Re: Ways to become immortal (3.5)

    You do live on in an afterlife (which sucks in eberron).
    You could move to the astral plane.
    You could steal something the maruts confiscated.
    You could just keep making clones and putting them into temporal stasis.

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    Default Re: Ways to become immortal (3.5)

    Here is a list.
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    You can be an Elan. Life span = infinite.
    Outsiders also infinite lifespan IIRC
    Warforged also have no age limit.

    What you want is immunity to being killed. Old age is not a problem.

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    Default Re: Ways to become immortal (3.5)

    Generally, there isn't.
    By the Core, you cannot clone, raise, reincarnate, or resurrect someone who has died of old age.

    In previous editions of D&D, there were potions and spells and so on that could lower your age - but the maximum age limit of your species generally still applied.

    In Cyclopedic D&D, and the Master Set and Immortals Set from which it was derived, there was the option of pursuing Immortality - in effect, to join the gods through long and difficult questing.
    It wasn't particularly popular, as the power level of a new Immortal was somewhat less than a 30+ level adventurer.
    The quest paths were interesting stuff, though. The Masters Set is available to buy as a PDF relatively cheaply, and the rules wouldn't need much modification.
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    Default Re: Ways to become immortal (3.5)

    Get as many people as possible to worship you and give you Divine Rank 0.

    You only really need a few hundred to get that, and since you can't grant spells they don't even have to be that devout.

    Thrallherd with a monster Charisma should work. Once you get Dr0 nothing can take it away from you, even if you don't have a single worshipper. It sets a new base level that you can never go below.
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    If you want to do it the stylish way, get Ritualed (Savage Species) into a True Dragon and take twelve levels of Dragon Ascendant.

    Congratulations, you are now a quasi-deity, entirely within the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magic9mushroom View Post
    If you want to do it the stylish way, get Ritualed (Savage Species) into a True Dragon and take twelve levels of Dragon Ascendant.

    Congratulations, you are now a quasi-deity, entirely within the rules.
    Would PAO x2 followed by a massive level retrain work?
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    I had a gestalt character once, Druid//Wizard, who would contingency the reincarnate spell before ritualistically offing himself. Only ever did it once, but it was fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobold-Bard View Post
    Would PAO x2 followed by a massive level retrain work?
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    Yes, but I said "stylish".
    Fair point.
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    Oh, and also, you need BAB +30 to enter Dragon Ascendant, so it's Epic only.
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    be a telepath, abuse greater mindswitch. i think you should be able to make mind switch contingent on you having less then 0 HP then every time you "die" you hop to a readied body and all that happens is you'll get a negative level.
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    Default Re: Ways to become immortal (3.5)

    Two steps:

    1) Have inside you blood of kings.
    2) Have no rivals... no man can be your equal.

    You are now immortal, but there can be only one of you at any given time.
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    You mean, the one I saw because of a link earlier in this thread and WTFed at?
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    Default Re: Ways to become immortal (3.5)

    Make your characters goal to become such. It makes is quite a bit more likely for DM fiat to give you an artifact for it (It's not like it has mechanical advantages outside of the... 3 effects in 3.5 that magically age you).

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuxhero View Post
    Make your characters goal to become such. It makes is quite a bit more likely for DM fiat to give you an artifact for it (It's not like it has mechanical advantages outside of the... 3 effects in 3.5 that magically age you).
    Incidentally, that brings up a good point.

    Wouldn't a phane try and find immortal characters to get a lasting food supply?
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    Be a warforged

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    Permanently polymorph yourself into that jellyfish that continuosly goes back into polyp stage.
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    Take the Wedded to History feat(dragon 354) at first level or retrain your first level feat into wedded to history.

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    Hey guys, thanks! All very helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Hall View Post
    Two steps:

    1) Have inside you blood of kings.
    2) Have no rivals... no man can be your equal.

    You are now immortal, but there can be only one of you at any given time.
    But you can be killed by taking your head. Plus, the ultimate price if you kill the rest is mortality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altair_the_Vexed View Post
    Generally, there isn't.
    By the Core, you cannot clone, raise, reincarnate, or resurrect someone who has died of old age.
    Ah, but there is way to be immortal. Have a druid friend. In fact, have a cult of druids who basically worship you. When you hit venerable, commit ritual suicide,then have them reincarnate you. Bamn, now you're a young adult again.
    By RAW, it works like a charm.
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    Well, it's not immortality, and it's incredibly boring, but you could use a Rod of Security to gain 200 days for every 6 seconds of your life. That multiplies your lifespan by 2880000, which is quite some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geddoe View Post
    Take the Wedded to History feat(dragon 354) at first level or retrain your first level feat into wedded to history.
    What does that do?

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    Basically it makes you immune to time and aging I think. That article is actually very good for running legendary campaigns. I used that feat as the center of one my own where each player was immortal and each adventure was spaced centuries apart. Basically as fate would have it they kept running into each other due to some greater plan the planes had. I gave them hints throughout the game as to why, but eventually they found out at lvl 20 in the final adventure. The Universe was coming to a predetermined end and they had been chosen to be the architects of the new one about to be borne. It was quite awesome and they finished it off by slaying the former architects who were by then the heads of pantheons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvenblade View Post
    What does that do?
    You choose one of a few immortal archtypes(remnant of ancient civilization, throwback to an older better version of your race, survivor, wanderer, or fated to do something important but you don't know what). You stop aging(no penalties or ability bonuses) and live forever unless killed. The archtypes each have a bonus ability(survivor can replace a fort save or reflex save with a will save, but all future will saves in the day are at a cumulative -1).
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    http://dndsrd.net/spellsPtoR.html#reincarnate

    Just a fourth level spell, You change bodies before you would die of age over and over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forai View Post
    http://dndsrd.net/spellsPtoR.html#reincarnate

    Just a fourth level spell, You change bodies before you would die of age over and over
    Then you get the Marut's coming after you.
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    Do you count undeath as immortality? If so there are a lot of options besides lich. If you don't want a level adjustment become a necropolitan.

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