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2010-05-20, 12:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Breaking action economy
I'm working on a character in an attempt to break action economy in every way possible and looking for more
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Anything you can think of is useful.Last edited by The Mentalist; 2010-05-20 at 12:31 AM.
Having trouble writing up hard stat blocks but I'm doing a lot of sharing ideas and soft mechanics lately.
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2010-05-20, 12:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
Planar Time Speed shenanigans: Most commonly used by the Planar Shepherd, but can also be applied to any situation where you can sit on one plane where time passes faster, and launch attacks at stuff on another plane.
Synchronicity: This psion power lets you ready an action, and decide later on what the action's trigger will be. When augmented, lets you decide what the action will be as well. Normally it takes a standard action to manifest so you spend a standard action to gain a standard action. Now add either Twin Power, Quicken Power, or both.
Schism: Lets you take an extra mental standard action each round.
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2010-05-20, 12:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
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2010-05-20, 01:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-20, 01:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-20, 01:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
Factotum 8 allows you to burn Insp for extra standard actions.
Beholder Mage PrC in Lords of Madness allows you to cast 10 spells a round. Takes some monkeying to get into, but not impossible for the ambitious. Then there is Shapechange into things like Chokers and Chronotryns for extra actions.
Search the forum for a thread about most spells in a round. I think there are a couple more.
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2010-05-20, 01:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
Hirelings.
No, seriously, don't underestimate the power of properly used level 1 warriors.
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2010-05-20, 01:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
Spell storing daggers and quick draw? Put a bunch of low-level buffs in them, then make a full attack on yourself/your familiar/the party tank with a different dagger for each attack.
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2010-05-20, 02:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
Travel Devotion feat: move as a swift rather than move action.
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2010-05-20, 02:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Quicken spell is so obvious that is taken for certain, so no one mentioned it?
Edit (add on): Craft contingency spell: have a nice set of spells easily activable for free.Last edited by Killer Angel; 2010-05-20 at 02:47 AM.
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2010-05-20, 02:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
White Raven Tactics.
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2010-05-20, 02:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
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2010-05-20, 04:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-20, 05:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Arcane Spellsurge
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2010-05-20, 05:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Dvati (Dragon Compendium)
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2010-05-20, 05:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sanctum Arcane Fusion.
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2010-05-20, 05:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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There's a difference between "breaking" and "atomising".
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2010-05-20, 05:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-20, 05:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
Psicrystal Affinity.
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2010-05-20, 05:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-20, 05:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
White Raven in general is about granting allies extra actions or denying the actions of enemies. It might well be the strongest school when properly utilized.
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2010-05-20, 05:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
Don't forget the Swiftblade prestige class. With Perpetual Options at ECL 15, you get two standard actions in a round when under the effect of your own Haste spell.
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2010-05-20, 05:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
You can try Ruby Knight Windicator.
Use Turn attempts to swift actions. Swift action + Travel domain = Whee!
Also seems to have a way to get WRT refresh with 2, but not sure how to do it.
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2010-05-20, 06:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
Stance of Alacrity and Time Stands Still. ToB.
Lesser/Normal/Greater Spell Matrix. SpC.
Multispell. ELH.
Choker Shapechange. MM.
Chronotyryn Shapechange. FF.If a tree falls in a forest, the Druid will make sure you hear about it.
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2010-05-20, 06:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-20, 06:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
Eyes of the Oracle [Dragon Magic] comes with free readied action you can maintain at all times; basically an extra standard action on discharge.
Battlemagic Perception [Heroes of Battle] is a free action counterspell.
Contingency/Instant Refuge [SpC]/Psionic Contingency [XPH]/Crafted Contingent Spells [CArc] are all obvious means to **** action economy in the eye.
Eternal Blade's [ToB] level 10 ability is probably the strongest action economy breaker in the game. Immediate action turn.
White Raven Tactics [ToB] can break action economy and in many scenarios, Moment of Alacrity [ToB] does it too.
Linked Power [CPsi] and Twin Power [CPsi] are all obvious means of breaking the action economy.
Of course, Beholder Mage [LoM]...Last edited by Eldariel; 2010-05-20 at 06:56 AM.
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2010-05-20, 07:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Breaking action economy
This one's problematic.
- You've got to hit yourself, and that's not automatic. You can choose to fail a saving throw, but accepting an attack isn't provided for by the rules.
- You have to take the damage (1d4 + STR bonus) every time (or double that if you get "lucky" and hit yourself for a critical).
- The party tank? Forget about it. High AC, and -2 to hit at 10' range. You'll probably just end up throwing the dagger away.
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2010-05-20, 07:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Multi-weapon fighting.
1 attack per weapon.
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2010-05-20, 09:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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The party tank? Forget about it. High AC, and -2 to hit at 10' range. You'll probably just end up throwing the dagger away.
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2010-05-20, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Cancer Mage. The cancerous companion can prform actions.
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