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    Default Races for Conjurer [3.5]

    I was wondering if there are any races that would be optimal for a wizard focusing in Conjuration and Monster Summoning. I'm planning on taking malconvoker at 6th level. The setting might be Forgotten Realms, but the DM is open to any races without LA.

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    (Dragonborn any of these)
    Gray Elf
    Lesser Tiefling
    Strongheart Halfling
    Human (Silverbrow/Azurin/etc. - suit to taste)
    Fire Elf

    They're all more or less equal, with different advantages
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldariel View Post
    (Dragonborn any of these)
    Strongheart Halfling
    Human (Silverbrow/Azurin/etc. - suit to taste)
    Baaaad idea.
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    I like being human, thank you very much.
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    Venerable Spellhoarding Dragonwrought Kobold Loredrake, Greater Draconic Rite of Passage, go Wizard 1/ Stalwart Sorcerer 2/ Malconvoker. Dragonwrought makes you a true dragon, thus qualifying you for dragon-only templates and other options, plus you don't take penalties to your physical ability scores from aging. Loredrake adds +2 levels to your Sorcerer spellcasting ability. Stalwart Sorcerer hinders your Sorcerer spells known and spells/day in exchange for more proficiencies, Weapon Focus, and +2 HP per class level. The Greater Draconic Rite of Passage gives you +1 level of Sorcerer spellcasting ability.

    Spellhoarding gives you Int +2, Wis -4, Scribe Scroll, and Eschew Materials, and trades your Sorcerer spellcasting ability for equal levels of Wizard spellcasting ability. You write your spells on your scales instead of in a book, you can write the same spell multiple times, you can sacrifice those scribed spells to fuel other abilities such as alternatives to paying costly material component and xp costs of spells, casting a spell as though from a scroll, etc., and you can never lose your spell book.

    With Wizard 1 you can specialize in Conjuration and get Abrupt Jaunt, Enhanced Summoning, Focused Specialist, etc. and your acquired Spellhoarding template will add your Sorcerer spellcasting levels to your existing Wizard spellcasting. At Wizard 1/ Sorcerer 2 you'll have 5th level Wizard spellcasting, Sorcerer gives you Bluff as a class skill and Wizard gives you Kn: Planes so you'll easily meet the skill requirements by then and can go straight into Malconvoker. At your 6th character level you can get the Greater Draconic Rite of Passage for yet another extra level of spellcasting, which would be converted to Wizard. Even after losing a level of spellcasting at Malconvoker 1 your spellcasting ability will be ahead by two levels. You should even consider taking Arcane Disciple to get Thaumaturgist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biffoniacus_Furiou View Post
    With Wizard 1 you can specialize in Conjuration and get Abrupt Jaunt, Enhanced Summoning, Focused Specialist, etc. and your acquired Spellhoarding template will add your Sorcerer spellcasting levels to your existing Wizard spellcasting.
    You should always take Rapid Summoning over Abrupt Jaunt when going summoner; all others want Abrupt Jaunt, but Rapid Summoning is pretty key for anyone who actually wants Quickened summons, summons in due schedule (it's basically an extra action for them), etc.

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    Baaaad idea.
    Ok, so you can Dragonborn the races based on stat adjustments, not racial abilities
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldariel View Post
    You should always take Rapid Summoning over Abrupt Jaunt when going summoner; all others want Abrupt Jaunt, but Rapid Summoning is pretty key for anyone who actually wants Quickened summons, summons in due schedule (it's basically an extra action for them), etc.
    Right, but you should also try to take Obtain Familiar at 1st level to get both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biffoniacus_Furiou View Post
    Right, but you should also try to take Obtain Familiar at 1st level to get both.
    Have to be level 3 to take Obtain Familiar, unless you have a caster level of 3. (Spellgifted and another permanent caster level boost)
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    Strongheart Halfling is your best bet, otherwise, Human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biffoniacus_Furiou View Post
    Venerable Spellhoarding Dragonwrought Kobold Loredrake, Greater Draconic Rite of Passage, go Wizard 1/ Stalwart Sorcerer 2/ Malconvoker. Dragonwrought makes you a true dragon, thus qualifying you for dragon-only templates and other options, plus you don't take penalties to your physical ability scores from aging. Loredrake adds +2 levels to your Sorcerer spellcasting ability. Stalwart Sorcerer hinders your Sorcerer spells known and spells/day in exchange for more proficiencies, Weapon Focus, and +2 HP per class level. The Greater Draconic Rite of Passage gives you +1 level of Sorcerer spellcasting ability.

    Spellhoarding gives you Int +2, Wis -4, Scribe Scroll, and Eschew Materials, and trades your Sorcerer spellcasting ability for equal levels of Wizard spellcasting ability. You write your spells on your scales instead of in a book, you can write the same spell multiple times, you can sacrifice those scribed spells to fuel other abilities such as alternatives to paying costly material component and xp costs of spells, casting a spell as though from a scroll, etc., and you can never lose your spell book.

    With Wizard 1 you can specialize in Conjuration and get Abrupt Jaunt, Enhanced Summoning, Focused Specialist, etc. and your acquired Spellhoarding template will add your Sorcerer spellcasting levels to your existing Wizard spellcasting. At Wizard 1/ Sorcerer 2 you'll have 5th level Wizard spellcasting, Sorcerer gives you Bluff as a class skill and Wizard gives you Kn: Planes so you'll easily meet the skill requirements by then and can go straight into Malconvoker. At your 6th character level you can get the Greater Draconic Rite of Passage for yet another extra level of spellcasting, which would be converted to Wizard. Even after losing a level of spellcasting at Malconvoker 1 your spellcasting ability will be ahead by two levels. You should even consider taking Arcane Disciple to get Thaumaturgist.
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