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Thread: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
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2010-06-18, 09:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
For an enemy in a game I am planning, I want to make a dungeon crasher brute, and to make him scary for the party I thought on having his strengh really buffed up.
I was planning having him use a belt of giant strenght +2 (or 4 not really sure) and having the arcanist of the enemy group buffing his strentgh even more, but I don't know about any spell that would stack with the enchancement bonus from the belt.
The idea of this particular encounter is having a leader (level 6 warblade Hobgoblin) a goblin wiz level 5 and some mooks (most likely 4 or 5 warriors) and the dungeon chrasher brute ( a hobgoblin fighter 6, maybe with the feral template)
I don't know how the party will be composed yet, but I will have 4 to 6 players all at ECL 6
So in short are there wizard spell that give a non-enchancement bonus to strengh?
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2010-06-18, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
A rage spell would give a morale bonus to str.
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2010-06-18, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
At ECL 6? Not that come to mind, no. Enhancement is the norm.
Edit - and apparently I fail. i didn't consider Rage because nobody ever USES it. The Wizard has to maintain concentration to affect 1 maybe two targets. Now a Bard would be a bit more useful at it, but I've never seen a bard dedicate a spell slot to it.Last edited by gbprime; 2010-06-18 at 09:17 PM.
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2010-06-18, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
Enlarge person
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2010-06-18, 09:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-18, 09:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
Valiant Fury (Courage 5, SpC) gives a +4 moral bonus to Str (and Con). I think there is one other spell that gives a moral bonus to Str.
Also, there is a relic belt that gives a moral bonus to Str, but I believe you have to worship Heironious. Check Complete Divine.
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2010-06-18, 09:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-18, 10:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
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2010-06-18, 10:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-18, 10:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
Hmm, might not be the most effective, but why not give him some psionics? Ih he had the feat Hidden Talent: Adrenaline Boost (Complete Psionics), he would have 2 power points and access to the mentioned power. Using it requires a swift action, but grants a +2 Insight to Str and Dex for 1 round.
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2010-06-18, 10:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-18, 11:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
Lycanthropes, in hybrid[or animal] form they can have bonuses to various ability scores.
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2010-06-19, 05:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
If you're primarily interested in Strength checks, the Shape Soulmeld(Mauling Gauntlets) feat from Magic of Incarnum will grant a +2 morale bonus to Strength checks (which stacks with morale bonuses to Strength itself). If the brute happens to have an essentia pool, this can be increased further.
Since you are at level 6, you could have him take the Bonus Essentia feat (same book) to give him 2 essentia, which he could invest in the gauntlets to get a total +6 morale bonus to Strength checks for the cost of two feats.
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2010-06-19, 06:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
Have him chug potions. Potion of enlarge person, potion of bullstrength, alchemical stuff, finish with a potion of rage. By that time, his mooks should be dead and he can wade into the party. Or have him drink 'em as he listens to the rogue try to open the door into his chamber.
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2010-06-19, 06:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
I think greatest effect will be obtained by a gory description of the sudden enlargement(cast just as they enter the room) of someone with unnaturally bulging muscles, with blood coming out of his ears and mouth so hard he's gritting his teeth, wailing his warcry with bloodshot eyes seething with rage.
(best part will be after all that when they loot him and he has..."only a +2 belt?" and a "weird powder that makes you dumber and tingles your nose")Last edited by Snake-Aes; 2010-06-19 at 06:18 AM.
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2010-06-19, 07:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
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2010-06-22, 06:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-22, 07:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
Dusk Giant? .....*runs away*
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2010-06-22, 07:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
the whole STR Drug + Berserk + Enlarge Person + str belt made me think of Bane.
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2010-06-22, 07:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
Water Orcs have +4 STR, better than Hobgoblins. To integrate him, you could have him be some sort of slave (mind-controlled or the normal kind) to the hobgoblins, or perhaps part of an allied band of Orcs passing through the hobbo settlement/whatever.
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2010-06-22, 07:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
Well, you can always make the enlargement delay for a couple rounds and, once he blows his surprise round screaming with pure hatred and chopping something, have him say "There is much more to me than meets the eye".
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2010-06-22, 07:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
There's always undead grafts from Libris mortis? Though looking at them you might have to fidde the NPC WBL guidelines a little... (or alter them slightly?)
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2010-06-22, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
Grafts all the way, I think there are some in Lords of Madness or whatever the abberation book is called.
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2010-06-22, 08:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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I wonder how accessible those grafts would be...
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2010-06-22, 08:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-22, 08:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
I'm more concerned on explaining why the villains of this thread would be able to have those.
Also, the whole "undead=evil" thing is a whoooooooooole can of worms I'd rather not open here, so I think it's not a very good idea to use that to keep the party from using those.
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2010-06-22, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Non Enchancemet STR bonus?
My epic barb had to go to the Underdark to get his, it was pretty rough but for me it was worth it :)