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2010-07-07, 01:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Erudite Build
Well, I'm playing under a tough DM, and my wizard recently was smoshed under an ogre's foot (whoa, it rhymes.)
I decided to role an Erudite, after hearing how powerful they are.
Note, this is my first time playing psionics (not that I hate them, but never really tried much, aside from some other player in my group playing a wilder or a soulknife.)
What is a good, well powered build?Last edited by Erts; 2010-07-07 at 01:06 AM.
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2010-07-07, 01:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erudite Build
If it is your first time playing psionics, I strongly, strongly suggest you play a Psion rather than an Erudite. The Erudite's key strength - unlimited powers known - is balanced by the "Unique Powers per Day" mechanic that forces you to trade in versatility as you manifest your powers. Throughout your career (and especially early on) you will need to have a decent handle on which powers are versatile enough that you won't be stuck with only useless ones at a clutch moment.
To contrast - a Psion has plenty of powers known, and no restriction on which ones they may pull out of their repertoire. It plays like an Int-based sorcerer, so it's very easy to pick up and run with.
And do not forget the cardinal rule: You cannot spend more power points on a single manifestation than your manifester level. That includes everything: the base cost, augmentation, metapsionics, and any cost increases or reductions that may be in effect.
The Psion Handbook will be your best learning tool to start with.
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Re: Erudite Build
Just remember, Anarchic Initiates are your friend, Wilders are not your friend.
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Any other things I should remember?
EDIT: I keep on seeing the first rule and noting how important it is, and I understand it is a fundamental part of psionics, it does not seem to be incredible complicated. Why is it emphasized so much?Last edited by Erts; 2010-07-07 at 02:05 AM.
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Re: Erudite Build
*Opps, post on wrong class thanks Optimystik*
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2010-07-07, 02:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erudite Build
Absolutely:
1) Decide on a role you want to play (blaster, summoner, controller etc.) just as you would if you were a wizard, and pick powers/a discipline that supports your chosen role. For example, you will definitely want to be a Shaper if you plan on summoning
2) Psions must choose a discipline, which is sort of similar to a Specialist Wizard choosing a school. However, Psions lose access to the discipline-only powers of other disciplines by doing so. Unlike a Wizard, however, Psions don't lose access to entireschoolsdisciplines worth of powers - just the restricted ones. In other words, any powers on the Psion/Wilder general list are fair game no matter what discipline you choose.
3) Because many psionic feats (and especially metapsionic feats) require expending your psionic focus to function, you will want Psionic Meditation at some point in your career. You won't need it right off the bat (I'd get a psicrystal before that), but plan on getting it by mid-levels at the earliest.
4) There are useful feats and powers in Complete Psionic (Metapower, Linked Power etc.) Just don't look too hard at the PrCs or "fixes" in it. The best psionic PrCs are online - WotC's site, the SRD, and if your DM allows it, the DSP-SRD.
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Yes, but only advances it twice in 10 levels. The PrC is decent, but WS isn't a compelling reason to take it in my opinion.
You're thinking of Ardents here. While Erudites can get a mantle, neither of the ACFs you mention apply to them even so.Last edited by Optimystik; 2010-07-07 at 02:20 AM.
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Re: Erudite Build
StP Erudite lol?
Play your wizard and the psion too. (Remember to be below ECL to get more xp to learn though. The learning is expensive)
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Depends on what you were using it for. If you were using Incantatrix for blasty spells of blastiness, Kineticist is your guy. If you were using Incantatrix to Persist everything under the sun... well, that's not possible in 3.5 psionics, but Egoist has some good buff powers, which is kinda similar.
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