How to commit genocide of the twilight vampires of dnd ? 3.5

[Grifthin]

Today at work we realized that Maenads are the twilight vampires of the dnd universe, Sparkling effect in the sun, exercise "self control", almost elven grace and host of other fiddely crap. So of course they have to die horribly. How high a level do you have to be to craft a spell that will wipe out every Maenad in existence ? Would one use some kind of Group spell casting or what ? What would be the requirements to cast a spell poewrful enought to acomplish this ? Think familicide for OOTS taken up to 11.

[Morithias]

Today at work we realized that Maenads are the twilight vampires of the dnd universe, Sparkling effect in the sun, exercise "self control", almost elven grace and host of other fiddely crap. So of course they have to die horribly. How high a level do you have to be to craft a spell that will wipe out every Maenad in existence ? Would one use some kind of Group spell casting or what ? What would be the requirements to cast a spell poewrful enought to acomplish this ? Think familicide for OOTS taken up to 11.

I'm thinking maybe some kind of "greater turning" turned up to 11. They may be resistance to the sun, but they're still undead.

Or better yet, why not take rebuking up to 11 and make them kill each other in a gladiatorial area.

[Grifthin]

Maenads arn't undead.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/ps...es.htm#maenads

[2xMachina]

Maenads arn't undead.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/ps...es.htm#maenads

Only means Twilight Vampires aren't undead. Merely sparkly things. (makes more sense IMO)

[The Mentalist]

I recommend someone stats up Alucard. I think he'd have a few things to say about sparkly whiners.

Or Epic Spells.


Or Epic Spells+Alucard

[Darkxarth]

I don't see anything on the SRD about Maenads that remotely relates to the Twilight Universe vampires. That being said, Epic spells are the way to go, here.

EDIT: Is it all in the fluff of the XPH? I should dig my copy out.

[Grifthin]

Yip, It's in the fluff - down to the pale skin, broody dark haired sparkly race. But seriously guys - what kind of spell/feat/class do I need should my character wish to wipe out a entire species in 1 casting. What kind of items etc.

[Lord Loss]

Craft Golem. Then build Alucard golem version. Then add the Vampire Template (Screw the Rules, I have GP). Then send him to Maenad-land. Then Bubbye Edward Cullen. Make a second one called Blade for emphasis.

[JeminiZero]

How willing are you to accept colateral damage? The easiest way in D&D to kill all Maenads on a planet, is to annihilate the planet (E.g. Anti-Osmium Bomb).

If you want to selectively kill the species (and not do it one at a time), then I think epic spells are the only way to do it.

[hamishspence]

The original attempts at statting out Familicide involved combining the Contact epic seed with the Slay epic seed- effectively you are contacting everybody with message-sending magic, and killing them in the process.

The Mythal seed in Lost Empires of Faerun is commonly used for huge-scale effects. The Dracorage Mythal in Dragons of Faerun is powerful enough to encompass an entire planet.

Maybe use these things as a baseline?

[Ossian]

Create "Blade, the Daylighter" (basically have a vampire bite a pregnant woman enough times to statistically ensure the production of such a fine specimen).
Run multiple experiments as such in parallel, as you need to see them grow to check if/which powers they have.

Once satisfied (say you have 5 "blades"), proceed to Clonation.

Clone spell sucks, literally "Gate" to the SW universe, Kamino System, beyond Reshee Labyrith (whatever "beyond" can mean in space) with enough hard cash at hand (natural resources will do).

Order a batch of 5000

Let them grow and train / equip

Mass gate them to your homeworld

Voila...

[Prime32]

Just make sure you haven't confused them with members of the Armstrong family, or that the Armstrongs are not in fact members of their species.

[Grifthin]

What's a Anti-Osmium Bomb ?

[TurtleKing]

Shame the Maenads are not undead me and my dm came up with a great way to get rid of those sparklers. At first I suggested a holy water nukes, but then decided on how to completely clean them out. A planetary wide holy water catergory five hurricane that washes the entire planet of them along with all the other undead. If that is not enough then let it rain for fourty days and fourty nights to wash them away. Only safe place for the undead is to not even be on the planet. This would require clerics and druids everywhere working in tandem in a grand ritual that will wipe them all out.

[hamishspence]

What's a Anti-Osmium Bomb ?

It's based on the presumption that D&D physics works like real-world physics unless explicitly stated otherwise- so antimatter can exist, and spells that create matter can create antimatter.

Osmium is the densest element in existence- so if matter is created by volume rather than by weight- anti-osmium is the most efficient.

[The Rose Dragon]

What's a Anti-Osmium Bomb ?

You use Major Creation to create a lot of anti-osmium. Upon contact with matter, it explodes as the 20 cubic feet of anti-matter it is, destroying pretty much everything due to the millions of d6 damage.

[JeminiZero]

What's a Anti-Osmium Bomb ?

The second most commonly cited WMD of D&D.

(The first most common WMD of course, being the Locate City Bomb, which requires less abuse of physics, but isn't nearly as lethal.)

[The Rose Dragon]

(The first most common WMD of course, being the Locate City Bomb, which requires less abuse of physics, but isn't nearly as lethal.)

It creates a lot of zombies, though.

[The Mentalist]

Now that Jemini has appeared and jogged my memory, why not the Emerald Legion, you could control them just to attack your victims. Though I do love the idea of cloned Alucard/Buffies (They're Alucard with breasts)

[JeminiZero]

It creates a lot of zombies, though.

Wights actually. Which can create spawn, in a secondary chain reaction known as the Wightpocalypse.

However, since some are made from sparkly TwiVamps, you run the inherent risk some will turn into sparkly TwiWights.

[Optimystik]

But... I like Maenads! Especially the racial subs.

The "self control" bit is because a Maenad is as likely to murder you horribly as have a conversation with you, which is quite a bit different than what Robert Pattinson would do. It seems that in 4e, their barely-contained-psychic-rage fluff was rolled into Kalashtar.

[2xMachina]

But... I like Maenads! Especially the racial subs.

The "self control" bit is because a Maenad is as likely to murder you horribly as have a conversation with you, which is quite a bit different than what Robert Pattinson would do. It seems that in 4e, their barely-contained-psychic-rage fluff was rolled into Kalashtar.

Like that site. Good Psionic support. WoTC doesn't do enough for Psionics.

[Grifthin]

Anybody with a link to a working example of a locate city bomb ?

[Optimystik]

Like that site. Good Psionic support. WoTC doesn't do enough for Psionics.

Everything there is in Untapped Potential, The Mind Divine and I think one other DSP book.

[Ormagoden]

But... I like Maenads! Especially the racial subs.

The "self control" bit is because a Maenad is as likely to murder you horribly as have a conversation with you, which is quite a bit different than what Robert Pattinson would do. It seems that in 4e, their barely-contained-psychic-rage fluff was rolled into Kalashtar.

Robert Pattinson would never hurt us.

[Beelzebub1111]

Well, if you phrase it a little differently twilight vampires aren't so bad.

They are Golems constructed from diamonds that feast upon the blood of the living to sustain themselves.

[JeminiZero]

Anybody with a link to a working example of a locate city bomb ?

I couldn't find a link that explained both variants, so here is my attempt:

1: Take Locate City, a spell with a range of ten miles per level
2: Apply snowcasting (FB) - spell now has the cold descriptor
3: Apply flash frost feat (PHB2) - spell now deals 2 points of cold damage to all in area (and makes area slippery but we don't care about that)

Variant 1:
4: Apply energy substitution (electricity) (CArc) - spell now deals electricity damge
5: Apply born of three thunders (CArc) - spell deals half electric, half sonic, but what is important is that it now requires a reflex save, allowing us to...
6: Apply explosive spell (CArc) - all creatures/things in area that fail their reflex saves are shunted to the outside of the area of effect (10 miles/level) and take 1d6 damage per 10 ft moved!

Variant 2:
4: Apply Fell Drain (Libris Mortis). Any creature that takes cold damage (from Flash Frost) also gains a negative level. Humanoids with only 1 HD are instantly slain, and will rise as Wights.
5: When cast in the middle of a crowded population centre, where 99% of the people are level 1 NPCs, you effectively convert 99% of them into Wights.
6: What follows is carnage as the 99% attack the remaining 1% and turn them into Wights. The army of Wights can then move to the next city, and turn the entire populace there to wights. And the next city, and the one after that. This chain-reaction is also known as the Wightpocalypse.

Note: The problem with Variant 1 is that Locate City could arguably occupy a flat circle rather than a sphere. If it were a sphere, the "edge of the area" as per explosive spell would be miles away, and would cause hundreds of damage. Whereas if it were a flat circle, the "edge of its area" would be immediately adjacent, thereby causing no damage.

[2xMachina]

Well, if you phrase it a little differently twilight vampires aren't so bad.

They are Golems constructed from diamonds that feast upon the blood of the living to sustain themselves.

Blood diamonds lol?

[Darkxarth]

The "self control" bit is because a Maenad is as likely to murder you horribly as have a conversation with you, which is quite a bit different than what Robert Pattinson would do.

Actually, for most Twilight Vampires, this applies (except that they will probably murder you after the conversation anyway).

[Optimystik]

Robert Pattinson would never hurt us.

Yes, that's exactly what I said.

Well, if you phrase it a little differently twilight vampires aren't so bad.

They are Golems constructed from diamonds that feast upon the blood of the living to sustain themselves.

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