Stone to Flesh

[Gravious]

Okay, basic, basic question: Can this spell be used ONLY to rescue originally fleshy creatures from Flesh to Stone, or could you pick up a pebble and turn it into a little hunk 'o meat?

[RufusCorvus]

The second paragraph is the relevant text.

[Tetrasodium]

Okay, basic, basic question: Can this spell be used ONLY to rescue originally fleshy creatures from Flesh to Stone, or could you pick up a pebble and turn it into a little hunk 'o meat?

Yup... sure can...

The spell also can convert a mass of stone into a fleshy substance. Such flesh is inert and lacking a vital life force unless a life force or magical energy is available. (For example, this spell would turn a stone golem into a flesh golem, but an ordinary statue would become a corpse.) You can affect an object that fits within a cylinder from 1 foot to 3 feet in diameter and up to 10 feet long or a cylinder of up to those dimensions in a larger mass of stone.

[Gravious]

Ah, thank ye. The 10 foot long cylinder is kind of a downer though... I wanted to fleshify and animate castles.

[Tetrasodium]

Ah, thank ye. The 10 foot long cylinder is kind of a downer though... I wanted to fleshify and animate castles.

fleshify that statue of the king who owns the castle ;)

[Halae]

keep in mind, the thing is dead when it becoes fleshy. I really like using a pitfiend stature for this, then casting an undead creation spell, combined with awaken undead

[derfenrirwolv]

So THATS where spam comes from....

I suppose you could do multiple 10 foot cylinders every day for a few years as the castle was being built, or turn individual building blocks into meat as it was being built....


i'm not sure why youd want to make the walls WEAKER though. Or how you'd prevent rotting.

[Ravens_cry]

Or how you'd prevent rotting.

Gentle Repose to the rescue!

[Aroka]

keep in mind, the thing is dead when it becoes fleshy. I really like using a pitfiend stature for this, then casting an undead creation spell, combined with awaken undead

Why does it matter what shape the stone is? When you turn it into flesh, it's going to collapse into a grotesque heap because it has no bones, ligaments, and the like. When you animate it, it's going to be some kind of undead jelly.

[Wonton]

So THATS where spam comes from....

You actually made me want to throw up. Congratulations.

Somewhat unrelated, but I've always wanted to Flesh to Stone someone, and follow it up with Stone to Sand, Quickened Sand to Glass... and then Shatter.

[Zaydos]

You actually made me want to throw up. Congratulations.

Somewhat unrelated, but I've always wanted to Flesh to Stone someone, and follow it up with Stone to Sand, Quickened Sand to Glass... and then Shatter.

Just Flesh to Ice and then Shatter.

[derfenrirwolv]

We had the party's female paladin get turned to stone. My dwarven cleric with ranks in stone cutting promptly went to work making a few "improvements"

[Wonton]

Just Flesh to Ice and then Shatter.

Didn't say it was the best method (that crown goes to Rock to Mud, Purify Food and Drink), but Shattering your enemy's glass statue is definitely the most bad-ass one.

[Adumbration]

I actually prefer Flesh to Salt and then opening my Decanter of Endless water on Geyser mode.

[Shademan]

I can see this being used in sieges.
"take those towers down! MASS STONE TO FLEEESH!"
oh the horror....

[Halae]

I can see this being used in sieges.
"take those towers down! MASS STONE TO FLEEESH!"
oh the horror....

I must research this spell with my wizard now

[hamishspence]

Yup... sure can...

(For example, this spell would turn a stone golem into a flesh golem, but an ordinary statue would become a corpse.)

Aside from the whole "enslaving an elemental being to create a golem ought to be evil" argument- might this be a way of creating flesh golems without having to cast the [evil] spell Animate Dead, and thus, without committing an evil act?

Imagine a multiclass wizard/paladin with his own flesh golems to command, through utilizing Stone to Flesh.

[Lysander]

We had the party's female paladin get turned to stone. My dwarven cleric with ranks in stone cutting promptly went to work making a few "improvements"

See, rule of cool means she's changed when turned back. It's also possible though that she just ends up with masses of her flesh and bone shaved off, and starts bleeding from the horrific wounds.

[Snake-Aes]

See, rule of cool means she's changed when turned back. It's also possible though that she just ends up with masses of her flesh and bone shaved off, and starts bleeding from the horrific wounds.

The rule actually states that it'll hurt and it will be ugly.

[Greenish]

Aside from the whole "enslaving an elemental being to create a golem ought to be evil" argument-

I seem to recall that there was a faction of gnomes in one of the Eberron books that argued that. Of course, they did elemental binding too, but they asked nicely.

[hamishspence]

The actual stone golem rules:

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/golem.htm#stoneGolem

say that all Stone to Flesh does, is negate its DR and magic immunity for 1 round.

Does that mean you have to cast the spell twice rather than once to create a flesh golem, or that the bit in Stone To Flesh that says you can create stone golems from flesh golems, is in error?

[Yuki Akuma]

Why does it matter what shape the stone is? When you turn it into flesh, it's going to collapse into a grotesque heap because it has no bones, ligaments, and the like. When you animate it, it's going to be some kind of undead jelly.

The actual text of the spell says that casting it on a statue creates a corpse. That is, a dead body.

One assumes the spell creates bones and ligaments. Otherwise, it wouldn't work on people turned to stone, would it?

[Snake-Aes]

The actual stone golem rules:

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/golem.htm#stoneGolem

say that all Stone to Flesh does, is negate its DR and magic immunity for 1 round.

Does that mean you have to cast the spell twice rather than once to create a flesh golem, or that the bit in Stone To Flesh that says you can create stone golems from flesh golems, is in error?

Might be nethack lore. Casting Stone to Flesh on a stone golem turns it into a flesh golem.

[hamishspence]

The SRD version of the spell:

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/stoneToFlesh.htm

does seem to suggest it works.

Simplest to assume it works- but only on a golem that's had its magic immunity lowered- by casting the spell on it first.

So- double-cast, and you have a flesh golem.

[Telok]

This is a truly wicked thing to do to someone.

Flesh to Stone. Stone Shape (statue of target into statue of giant genitalia with the target's head on top). Stone to Flesh.

Of course just the sheer level of DM abuse you can get by combining Stone Shape, Stone to Flesh, 4chan, and rule 34, is sufficiently nasty for me to avoid this sort of thing unless I'm playing a really evil character. Like... when I DM.

[Beelzebub1111]

The exact combination is:
Stone to flesh, Rock to Mud, Purify Water.

[Roga]

If the Flesh to Stone-Stone Shape-Stone to Flesh combo works, would that mean you could take an Obese guy and reshape him into a Buff guy, possibly with wings?

[Keld Denar]

Or the unendowed lady into a more curvy lady. Bewbies!

EDIT:

The exact combination is:
Stone to fleshFlesh to Stone, Transmute Rock to Mud, Purify Water Food and Drink.

Ya had it backwards :P

[rat-morningstar]

so THAT's how sex change works in D&D

[Snake-Aes]

so THAT's how sex change works in D&D

Suddenly I think flesh to stone is standard fare and surgeons are actually stoneworkers with two weeks experience in the Doc Camp. Mending bones resembling lego!