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2010-08-26, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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leadership and cohorts as relates to intelligence in 3.5
Hypothetically, is there any way to increase the intelligence of a creature for purposes of making them your cohort?
as a paladin mount he gets it, and with enough animal companion hit die, it could be done i suppose, putting the bonus ability scores for every 4 hit die in int.
or maybe just put a _____ of intelligence on a creature that is already your trained but non-intelligent mount. presumably, the animal (say a horse) already has some bond with you it's trainer/handler, and upon gaining sentience, is more than happy to continue adventuring. but also gaining levels.
one day, I intend to play a halfling on a deinonychus, in a heavily dungeon based campaign. a landspeed of 60, medium size. sounds sweet.I am revenge. I am the night.
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2010-08-26, 09:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-26, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-26, 10:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: leadership and cohorts as relates to intelligence in 3.5
The "Awaken" Spell or the "Wild Cohort" feat. gets you an animal cohort but no followers. Available from level one.
edit: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20031118aLast edited by Badgerish; 2010-08-26 at 10:46 AM.
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2010-08-26, 04:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: leadership and cohorts as relates to intelligence in 3.5
so i gotta find/pay a druid to awaken my dino. cool, thanks.
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2010-08-26, 06:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: leadership and cohorts as relates to intelligence in 3.5
Why would a druid awaken your animal? Just because you pay him to? Economic greed is not exactly a druidic trait.
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2010-08-26, 06:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-26, 06:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: leadership and cohorts as relates to intelligence in 3.5
Then again, druids are
humanhumanoidintelligent creatures with different personalities and goals. There may very well be greedy druids charging for making rain or not terrorizing the village. There may be druids trying to collect money to buy and save a particular plot of forest from foresters, or to finance a monolith supercomputer, or to pay for the next pint.
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2010-08-26, 06:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: leadership and cohorts as relates to intelligence in 3.5
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2010-08-26, 07:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-26, 07:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: leadership and cohorts as relates to intelligence in 3.5
Sort of. Without rules-bendery on the part of your DM, you're not going to be able to have a true Animal cohort.
See, your Cohort needs an ECL - Awaken doesn't give the critter an LA for an ECL, animals don't have an LA, and the Animal Type specifies: "no creature with an Intelligence score of 3 or higher can be an animal", so you're a no-go there.
The Wild Cohort feat (as mentioned) will probably work for you, assuming the biggest portion of what you want is a ride that doesn't go splat the first time you get caught in an area effect (horses are a BAD investment at level 10, unless they're boosted by a class ability or some such).
Polymorph Any Object could potentially do it... but then the beast isn't an animal anymore (although you could go the other way, turning an existing cohort into a suitable mount... which fixes the LA issue).Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.
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2010-08-26, 08:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: leadership and cohorts as relates to intelligence in 3.5
because according to the PHB you can pay for spell casting services, now it doesnt say that druids spells arnt included, so it is only reasonable that there are druids out there that sell their services (like other adventurers for example!)
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2010-08-27, 12:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: leadership and cohorts as relates to intelligence in 3.5
well, the wild cohort feat does pretty much exactly what i need
of course, the awakened raptor cohort is better, but i'll definitely get less eye-rolling from behind the screen with the wild cohort. if i WAS going to do the awaken thing, i'm sure there is some way i could find to work it in.
for one thing, again, the pc is from a tribe of halflings on dinos. not too much of a stretch to say they've got a druid among them? probably even in a position of power, like chief or shaman or something.
and if not, i go on an adventure where I help defend the druid's forest from marauding _____. and pay him. and do some landscaping, maybe groom his animal companion for him. i'm sure we can figure something out.
does an awakened animal become a magical beast, and therefore bump up to a d10 hd?I am revenge. I am the night.
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2010-08-27, 05:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-27, 08:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: leadership and cohorts as relates to intelligence in 3.5
Augmented subtype means the HD doesn't change.
"A creature with the augmented subtype usually has the traits of its current type, but the features of its original type."
Magical beast (augmented animal) has the following features:
- 8-sided Hit Dice.
- Base attack bonus equal to ¾ total Hit Dice (as cleric).
- Good Fortitude and Reflex saves.
- Skill points equal to (2 + Int modifier, minimum 1) per Hit Die, with quadruple skill points for the first Hit Die.
And the following traits:
- Darkvision out to 60 feet and low-light vision.
- Proficient with its natural weapons only.
- Proficient with no armor.
- Magical beasts eat, sleep, and breathe.
As per the types and subtypes section.Last edited by Greenish; 2010-08-27 at 08:46 AM.
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