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    What's you favorite and least favorite outer plane, and why?

    Mine are Mount Celestia and Arcadia respectively. I love the balance between law and good of Celestia; people work together without forcing their beliefs on others.

    Arcadia is law above good and ends up dystopian and with the feeling that Big Brother is watching.
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    My favorite is actually Arcadia, because it's good without feeling Saccharine and has room for improvement. And my least favorite is Baator, because it's everything I fear I could become if I let myself.
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    My favorite is Ysgard. It's the source of Gloryborn Armor.

    My least favorite is Eberron's Doluurgh or Forgotten Realm's Wall of the Faithless... I'd rather have a happy afterlife.

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    Favorite: Ysgard. Swordfight all day and feast all night? Yes please!
    Least Favorite: Negative Energy Plane, probably. It just seems really, really... boring. Also lethal.
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    The Negative Energy plane is an inner plane.

    Favorite: Acheron. Epic infernal wars on floating metal cubes. Lower on it turns into an infinite expanse of darkness filled with supersonic flying ice blades. Hell yes.

    Least favorite: Bytopia. It just seems so... lame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius Maximus View Post
    Favorite: Acheron. Epic infernal wars on flying metal cubes. Lower on it turns into an infinite expanse of darkness filled with supersonic flying ice blades. Hell yes.
    I love me some Acheron too, but it doesn't win for me.

    Least favorite: Bytopia. It just seems so... lame.
    This however is totally agreed. Bytopia is booooring. That or the Beastlands.

    My favorite though? Have to roll with the Concordant Domain of the Outlands! Sigil baby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius Maximus View Post
    The Negative Energy plane is an inner plane.
    Fine. Grey Waste of Hades, then. Same reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho View Post
    Fine. Grey Waste of Hades, then. Same reason.
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    Also, seriously, Hades is pretty blech, but since it's a Plane of Conflict it's automatically more interesting than Bytopia or one of the higher planes. God I hate the Good-aligned planes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arguskos View Post
    God I hate the Good-aligned planes.
    Ysgard is Good-aligned, isn't it?

    *checks*

    Scratch that. It's Chaotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho View Post
    Ysgard is Good-aligned, isn't it?

    *checks*

    Scratch that. It's Chaotic.
    It is between Arborea and Limbo giving it traits of both good and neutrality. It's also an awesome, awesome plane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydos View Post
    It is between Arborea and Limbo giving it traits of both good and neutrality. It's also an awesome, awesome plane.
    Nope, Ysgard is not good-dominant. Just because it's next door to Arborea doesn't make it good-aligned. It's mildly chaos aligned though, due to proximity to Limbo. This is similar to how Arcadia is not good-aligned, just law-aligned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arguskos View Post
    Nope, Ysgard is not good-dominant. Just because it's next door to Arborea doesn't make it good-aligned. It's mildly chaos aligned though, due to proximity to Limbo. This is similar to how Arcadia is not good-aligned, just law-aligned.
    That actually depends upon the edition as well; 2e it is defined as Chaotic Neutral/Chaotic Good and even in 3e it is said to have good leanings.
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    Plane of Dreams for favourite. Because Sandman is awesome.

    Hades would be least favourite.

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    I actually don't have a favourite plane; I do like Heaven but also Arborea. Not so much Elysium, despite its embodiment of perfect goodness, it's also a reality whereby you are forced to merge with the plane, or once having failed saves aren't allowed to leave, ever.

    Least favourite may be some of the soul-wasting lower realities, the Gray Wastes, Carceri (the prison plane); Limbo (I hate the slaadi).
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    From a Game Master standpoint, I like Baator the most, because it has an insane potential for awesome adventures there, and I like playing the various Devils. Seriously, you could run a weekly RPG in Baator for 20 years and never run out of stuff to do. It's awesome. I probably like the Beastlands the least. It's so bland and has very little going for it that separates it from the other planes. Even with the comparative wealth of info from 2nd edition Planescape books, it just doesn't grab me.

    From a personal standpoint, I want to afterlife in the Outlands, I've decided. I'd probably prefer the Abyss least of all. Possibly Pandemonium.

    From just an aesthetic standpoint, Mechanus all the way! Giant gears the size of continents, Inevitable Creche-Forges, and the Modrons! Woooo. Clockwork all the way. And I think the Beastlands win the least favorite one yet again. Seriously, what makes this interesting? Why couldn't we have gotten something Roman, Greek, or Muslim inspired here instead?

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    Favorite: Elysium. Eternal joy and satisfaction? Colours and sensations more intense than any on earth? An island paradise exclusive to me, amongst other islands housing the greatest heroes in the multiverse? Yeah, I can deal with that.

    Least: Pandemonium. I hate excessive wind. Plus, you've seen one cavern, you've seen 'em all. It doesn't even have variety like the Abyss or Hell.

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    My favorite would have to be Carcerous, I just love the entire theme and flavor they have there. It's just got so much potential for awesome encounters and events.

    Elysium creeps me out to the extreme. It's the dire half-dragon spawn of Pleasantville and Stepford.
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    Favorite: The Far Realm if available, if not, The Abyss. (Both for the same reason, too. Fun and chaos everywhere! Bring the kids!)
    Least Favorite: Mechanus (sooooooooooooo boring).
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    Well, Baator's the most interesting to me, but Celestia's of course the most pleasant.
    My least favorite would be the Plane of Shadows. It just... meh. Darkness, things aren't really real, echoes of the past and future, shadows coming for you, blah. I don't find it very interesting, and I feel like it could be made much more interesting than it is.
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    That depends:

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    Best: Arborea. It's wonderful.
    Worst: The Grey Waste. It's pretty much a worst case scenario in every aspect, but losing my emotions makes it especially bad.

    To DM:
    Best: Baator. The devils are just great antagonists
    Worst: Bytopia or Arcadia... I never know what to do with them.
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    Elysium! It's full of furries!

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    Bah. They only look like furries since 3E. They actually looked pretty cool back in 2E.
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    I was just being facetious - I actually like the Guardinals' animalistic look.
    Summoning a pride of leonals to spam Holy Word Roar everywhere is pretty badass.

    What did they look like in 2e?

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    Another vote for the Beastlands being the least interesting. I almost always forget that it's there. "What's between Arborea and Elysium? Durr... something lame..."

    Ghenna is the evil version of the Beaslands for me. What's the point of Ghenna? Nothing seems to happen there. At least Pandemonium has Garyx.

    As for my favorite outer plane... that's a tough one. I'd probably say the Infinite Layers of the Abyss. It's just so wacky! Plus, Dagon lives there! Yay!

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    Favorite: The Spruce Goose
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    Favourite: Realm of Dreams is that variant is in effect, if not then the Seven Mounting Heavens of Celestia, because I once ran a campaign all about it and loved everything about it, especially the rulers of each layer.
    Least favourite: the Far Realm if available, if not, Limbo, because it seems a bit too chaotic. And I'm an agent of chaos if ever there was one.
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    It is between Arborea and Limbo giving it traits of both good and neutrality. It's also an awesome, awesome plane.
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    Yes. Because you can fight and die and live again, forever. Also Norse gods. HAIL THOR!
    Hail to the Giant-Hunter and hail to the forces of nature all!

    Sorry, felt that was needed. Ysgard rules.
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    Favorite: Arborea. Chaotic good, elves and eladrins, several of my favorite goddesses. What's not to like?

    Least Favorite: Acheron. Constant, pointless war that drains away the identity? No thanks.

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    Elysium. Or... Celestia. I enjoy pretty much any good plane though.

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