Dread Necromancers and Walkers in the Waste...

[TechnOkami]

I have a character who is both classes. The main question I have is: when you've turned into the effective lich for one of the classes, what happens to you when you reach the final level of the other class?

[Choco]

Regular template stacking rules would apply I guess.

Though at that point the game is epic level and nothing works as it is supposed to anyway.

[Lapak]

Regular template stacking rules would apply I guess.

Which means that only the first 'lich' would apply, as lich can only be applied to humanoids. The first transformation changes your type to Undead, and you don't qualify for the second?

[ScionoftheVoid]

I have a character who is both classes. The main question I have is: when you've turned into the effective lich for one of the classes, what happens to you when you reach the final level of the other class?

You're in Epic and have had to dip a Divine class for access to WitW anyway? Seriously, you're at least level 31 by that point.

On topic, one template disqualifies you from the other, so finish WitW first, Dry Liches are better than standard ones.

[TechnOkami]

You're in Epic and have had to dip a Divine class for access to WitW anyway? Seriously, you're at least level 31 by that point.

On topic, one template disqualifies you from the other, so finish WitW first, Dry Liches are better than standard ones.

On the topic of you saying I would have to dip into a divine class to acces WitW, that is in fact a no. I'm just using feat loopholes to give me access to WitW. :D

[Choco]

On the topic of you saying I would have to dip into a divine class to acces WitW, that is in fact a no. I'm just using feat loopholes to give me access to WitW. :D

Alright, minimum of lvl 30 then.

Either way you can only have one, so pick the one you want the most and make sure you get that first. Or, as this IS epic levels and the rules don't matter anymore, talk to the DM about maybe allowing you to apply both, where you get all the strengths and weaknesses of both, using the biggest modifier in case of stacking.

[Nate the Snake]

On the topic of you saying I would have to dip into a divine class to acces WitW, that is in fact a no. I'm just using feat loopholes to give me access to WitW. :D

What feat loopholes are you using to pull this off?

[some guy]

Uncertainty about whether you're a lich or a dry lich?

Schrödinger's Lich is what happens.

[Psyren]

What feat loopholes are you using to pull this off?

Southern Magician or Alternate Source Spell would be my guesses. It just says you need to be able to cast three spells from the domains as divine spells; it does not say you actually need the domains themselves.

@ OP: No dawg, you cannot put lich in your lich so you can lich while you lich.

[TechnOkami]

Southern Magician or Alternate Source Spell would be my guesses. It just says you need to be able to cast three spells from the domains as divine spells; it does not say you actually need the domains themselves.

@ OP: No dawg, you cannot put lich in your lich so you can lich while you lich.

Southern Magician and Arcane Disciple to be specific.

[Psyren]

Southern Magician and Arcane Disciple to be specific.

You don't actually need Arcane Disciple - your DN can simply pick up Parching Touch, Desiccate and Mass Desiccate through Advanced Learning, then cast them as divine spells with SM. As all three are on the Thirst Domain, you qualify for WitW.

The reason they want the spells rather than the domains is so that Druids can become Walkers as well.

[Xefas]

Just to offer an alternative opinion, so you have some variety...

Double Lich! Same great Lich flavor, twice the Lich calories! You enjoy such benefits as 'Double Immortality' and 'Double Immunity to Effects That Require Fortitude Saves That Don't Also Affect Objects'. Your alignment obviously automatically shifts to Double Evil, as the double undeath you're experiencing double warps your very psyche.

[The Glyphstone]

Just to offer an alternative opinion, so you have some variety...

Double Lich! Same great Lich flavor, twice the Lich calories! You enjoy such benefits as 'Double Immortality' and 'Double Immunity to Effects That Require Fortitude Saves That Don't Also Affect Objects'. Your alignment obviously automatically shifts to Double Evil, as the double undeath you're experiencing double warps your very psyche.

Do you become Double vulnerable to positive energy? That'd be a big downside, though Double Healing from negative energy could make up for it.

[Czin]

Just to offer an alternative opinion, so you have some variety...

Double Lich! Same great Lich flavor, twice the Lich calories! You enjoy such benefits as 'Double Immortality' and 'Double Immunity to Effects That Require Fortitude Saves That Don't Also Affect Objects'. Your alignment obviously automatically shifts to Double Evil, as the double undeath you're experiencing double warps your very psyche.

Does anything you touch become doubly paralyze and suffer 2d8 negative energy damage?

(Gah, now that question one of my little brothers asked is resurfacing..."Can Liches heal by touching themselves Valthy..."...get out of my head vile double entendre!)

[Coidzor]

Uncertainty about whether you're a lich or a dry lich?

Schrödinger's Lich is what happens.

Even better, Schrodinger's Phylactery. Upon destruction, you never know which route the body is going to be reformed by. (wait.... no, they get brought back by both methods until they're observed in which case they end up being brought back by only one of the methods... meaning until they're observed there's two of 'em!?)