New OOTS products from CafePress
New OOTS t-shirts, ornaments, mugs, bags, and more
Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. - Top - End - #1
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Talbot's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2009

    Default Do Skills stay Class Skills if you level in another class?

    Basically, does taking a class permanently add its skills to your list, or just for the levels you're in the class?
    Last edited by Talbot; 2011-02-01 at 11:49 PM.

  2. - Top - End - #2
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Dusk Eclipse's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Runite
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Do Skills stay Class Skills if you level in another class?

    Yes; but only for max ranks, if you took a level in say ranger you would always have Survival as a class skill for the purpose of max ranks (IE character level + 3) but if you took levels in... wizard you would have to buy them at a 2:1 rate in your wizards level.

    somewhat counter-intuitive in my opinion...
    Just call me Dusk
    Avatar by Ceika

    Dming: Eyes of the Lich Queen IC OOC


  3. - Top - End - #3
    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    Volos's Avatar

    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Do Skills stay Class Skills if you level in another class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk Eclipse View Post
    Yes; but only for max ranks, if you took a level in say ranger you would always have Survival as a class skill for the purpose of max ranks (IE character level + 3) but if you took levels in... wizard you would have to buy them at a 2:1 rate in your wizards level.

    somewhat counter-intuitive in my opinion...
    The system is ballanced, otherwise everyone would multiclass into Rouge into order to get most of the skills as class skills.

  4. - Top - End - #4
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    Jarian's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Crazytown
    Gender
    Female

    Default Re: Do Skills stay Class Skills if you level in another class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Volos View Post
    The system is ballanced, otherwise everyone would multiclass into Factotum into order to get all of the skills as class skills.
    Fixed that for you.
    Last edited by Jarian; 2011-02-02 at 12:59 AM.
    My forum avatars appear to have decomposed in my absence. C'est la vie.
    Homebrewer's Signature
    If you use any of my homebrew, or even if you just have a strong opinion on it, please let me know. Feedback is always useful.

  5. - Top - End - #5
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Thurbane's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Terra Australis
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Do Skills stay Class Skills if you level in another class?

    This is what makes Able Learner such a good feat...effectively, every class skill you ever had becomes a class skill forever (on a 1:1 ratio).

  6. - Top - End - #6
    Titan in the Playground
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Do Skills stay Class Skills if you level in another class?

    Yes for max ranks no for skill points spent per rank.
    So you never have to interrupt a game to look up a rule again:
    My 3.5e Rules Cheat Sheets: Normal, With Consolidated Skill System
    TOGC's 3.5e Spell/etc Cards: rpgnow / drivethru rpg
    Utilities: Magic Item Shop Generator (Req. MS Excel), Balanced Low Magic Item System
    Printable Cardstock Dungeon Tiles and other terrain stuff (100 MB)

  7. - Top - End - #7
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    dsmiles's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    In the T.A.R.D.I.S.
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Do Skills stay Class Skills if you level in another class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    This is what makes Able Learner such a good feat...effectively, every class skill you ever had becomes a class skill forever (on a 1:1 ratio).
    Best. Feat. EVAR. (For multiclass characters.)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor
    People assume that time is a strict progression of cause-to-effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff.
    Awesomesauce Doctor WhOotS-atar by Ceika!

  8. - Top - End - #8
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Thurbane's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Terra Australis
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Do Skills stay Class Skills if you level in another class?

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmiles View Post
    Best. Feat. EVAR. (For multiclass characters.)
    Indeed. Heck, even your cross class skills are still 1:1, but your max ranks suffers the normal cap (level+3)/2.

  9. - Top - End - #9
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Yuki Akuma's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    The Land of Angles

    Default Re: Do Skills stay Class Skills if you level in another class?

    No. They're cross-class skills.

    Your max ranks for a skill are based on whether you have a single level in a class with that skill as a class skill. That doesn't make it a class skill for every class.
    There's no wrong way to play. - S. John Ross

    Quote Originally Posted by archaeo View Post
    Man, this is just one of those things you see and realize, "I live in a weird and banal future."

  10. - Top - End - #10
    Bugbear in the Playground
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location

    Default Re: Do Skills stay Class Skills if you level in another class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk Eclipse View Post
    Yes; but only for max ranks, if you took a level in say ranger you would always have Survival as a class skill for the purpose of max ranks (IE character level + 3) but if you took levels in... wizard you would have to buy them at a 2:1 rate in your wizards level.

    somewhat counter-intuitive in my opinion...
    Think about it this way:
    If the max ranks were to change when you multiclass then a Ranger with who took a level Wizard might have to somehow lose ranks in Survival (because his maximum is now lower).
    And that makes little sense.
    If a tree falls in the forest and the PCs aren't around to hear it... what do I roll to see how loud it is?

    Is 3.5 a fried-egg, chili-chutney sandwich?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •