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    Default Is there any way to be more than one race?

    Does anyone know of any way to be more than one race?

    Preferably Illumian and Dvati.

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    1.Be an Illumian Psion with a Dvatai cohort(s?).
    2.Manifest Fusion.
    3. ???
    4. Profit!

    Note: Step 3 involves making the spell Permanent somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    1.Be an Illumian Psion with a Dvatai cohort(s?).
    2.Manifest Fusion.
    3. ???
    4. Profit!

    Note: Step 3 involves making the spell Permanent somehow.
    Would Incarnate work? Fusion's not listed, but I assume that wouldn't automatically outrule it.
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    Only thing I can think of is that for some of the paragon classes (Half-Orc, Half-Elf) you can count as both a human and that race for prerequisites that requires one of those races.
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    How about the fact that humans can apparently breed with anything on two legs (or even four legs if you count dragons)?

    Human: Hey elf, you look like a girl.
    Elf: To a human, everything must look like a girl.
    Human: What?
    Elf: Half-orcs, half-ogres...
    Human: ... shut up.
    Dwarf: Half-dragons, half-kobolds.
    Human: I said shut up!
    Elf: ...
    Dwarf: ...
    Human: ...
    Elf: Centaurs.

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    Stoneblessed lets you count as another race for taking feats and PrCs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    Stoneblessed lets you count as another race for taking feats and PrCs...
    I thought it replaced all racial features of your race with that of the race blessing you?

    IE: human goes from + 4 skill points + 1 feat + 1 skill point per level etc.
    to say
    + 2 con - 2 cha + dwarfy traits

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    I thought it replaced all racial features of your race with that of the race blessing you?

    IE: human goes from + 4 skill points + 1 feat + 1 skill point per level etc.
    to say
    + 2 con - 2 cha + dwarfy traits
    Nope, you get the benefits of your chosen race on top of your normal racial modifiers. That is, the benefits of the race that are granted from the class.
    Last edited by Waker; 2011-02-05 at 10:19 PM.

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    Yup, so you can get a halfogre warhulk who's also a bloodstorm blade. And similar shenanigans.

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    Half- Templates could work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waker View Post
    Nope, you get the benefits of your chosen race on top of your normal racial modifiers. That is, the benefits of the race that are granted from the class.
    Can you take that feat several times? (assuming stoneblessed is a feat)
    Wouldn't that mean you can take a race that grants one or more bonus feats to get their other racial traits for free?

    As in be a dwarf, take stoneblessed for human traits, gain a feat and +1 skillpoint per level?
    Sounds kinda abusable I'd say :/

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    Stoneblessed is a 3 level PrC, in Races of Stone. There are three versions: Dwarf, Gnome and Goliath.

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    Oh, well that would've been too easy =)
    And I suppose you have to take all three levels for the additional racial traits?

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    I know Munchkin d20 has rules for this!

    You just take all the good stuff and throw away (don't even mention) eveything you don't want.

    ...

    But seriously, ask your GM and see if he'll work with you building a hybrid of the two races... Otherwise, you could use it as sort of a background flavor thing. Take the race that has the stats that benefit you more and say you have blood of the other and maybe set high and low stats (but don't actually modify them) based on what's given and taken by the other. Then act out a sort of affinity for them.

    I once played a Half-Orc who's other half was an Elf... There was no stat difference, he just was extra-super-hated by the Elves.

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    Regular munchkin has a card that allows you to have two races at the same time. However, it also allows you to switch your race and class whenever you like.
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    Can I ask, what is the conecptual basis for this two-race character? Or is this just part of a Theoretical Optimisation puzzle?
    If a tree falls in the forest and the PCs aren't around to hear it... what do I roll to see how loud it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fruchtkracher View Post
    Oh, well that would've been too easy =)
    And I suppose you have to take all three levels for the additional racial traits?
    It doesn't get you ALL of the racial traits, even after all 3 levels. Just most of them. And as stated, it only works for dwarf, gnome, OR goliath. Granted, you could take it 3 times, one for dwarf, once for goliath, and once for gnome. Though I can't think of why you'd want 9 levels used like that.

    Other ideas, could you cast polymorph on one dvati to turn him into say an orc, and one on his twin to turn him into an elf? Allowing you to play with both orc and elf only prestige classes? That at least is what I assume you're trying for with this question.

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    Shapechange?
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    Necropolitan lets you keep more or less everything from your previous race. So you can be both Necropolitan and basically anything else.

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    Necropolitan Dragonborn Stoneblessed x3 Mongrelfolk?
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    If the OP wants to count permanently as both Dvati and Illumian for a character build, I honestly can't think of any way to do it, other than hombrewing - although, it's possible psionics has some options, as above, but I'm not familiar enough with psionics to really know...

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