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    She's a sylph.
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    A home-made version of sylph race.
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    In one strip (I don't remember which one, but it was vduring the Greysky City arc) Roy described Celia as "inexplicably medium-sized". So her species probably usually isn't medium-sized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ORione View Post
    In one strip (I don't remember which one, but it was vduring the Greysky City arc) Roy described Celia as "inexplicably medium-sized". So her species probably usually isn't medium-sized.
    Yeah, the official D&D version of the sylph is Small. But then, so is the official D&D version of the goblin.
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    She's a sylph and I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned a few times in the comic. She's just the rare, plot-contrived, medium-sized sylph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Epic View Post
    She's a sylph and I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned a few times in the comic. She's just the rare, plot-contrived, medium-sized sylph.
    Does that make her sylph-centered or sylph-ish?

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    There was a distinct lack of sylph-esteem after the Greysky arc
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    Yeah, the official D&D version of the sylph is Small. But then, so is the official D&D version of the goblin.
    Yeah, I always figured that OoTS sylphs in general were medium-sized, not that Celia was vastly oversized for her race. Besides, her co-workers from the Dungeon of Durokan were the same size as she was, and they appeared to be sylphs as well.
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    Her co-workers were not sylphs. They lacked wings and were probably some sort of Earth/Fire Outsiders or Fey.

    Her ex-boyfriend, however, certainly was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy_Knight View Post
    Yeah, I always figured that OoTS sylphs in general were medium-sized, not that Celia was vastly oversized for her race.
    There is a normal sized Sylph in the last panel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martianmister View Post
    There is a normal sized Sylph in the last panel.
    Belkar is Small. The flying winged lady-thingie looks more Tiny. Probably a Sprite of some kind, like a Grig.

    Just got done looking through my 1ed & 2ed Monster Manuals. Sylphs are medium sized in both of those, so the Small Sylphs are new to 3ed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brionl View Post
    Belkar is Small. The flying winged lady-thingie looks more Tiny.
    Not to mention she looks smaller than Mr. Scruffy and roughly the same size as Blackwing or Qarr, all of whom are Tiny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epee Assassin View Post
    You know, Roy's girlfriend.
    Not to be mean but, have you actually read the strips? I'm sure it's mentioned somewhere.

    This is one of those times I like all raeg over ignorance, but then I realized I'm not entirely sure on my knowledge and kind of calm down a little
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    Does that make her sylph-centered or sylph-ish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by martianmister View Post
    There is a normal sized Sylph in the last panel.
    How do we know it's a sylph? Couldn't it be like a sprite or something?

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    Yeah, that is most certainly a Pixie. That is NOT a small creature.

    Additionally, if Sylph are anything like Goblins, the OOTS versions come "inexplicably medium"
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    Actually, Rich has kind of an odd way of portraying height and size category. Look at the sea trolls and compare them to when Durkon uses Thor's Might.

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    Yeah, that is most certainly a Pixie. That is NOT a small creature.
    It's definitely a pixie. If you look in the Board Game, that exact same character is in the game as a monster card titled "Pixie Chick." The card even has the same pink background as the women's restroom from that panel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    Yeah, that is most certainly a Pixie. That is NOT a small creature.
    But pixies are Small creatures. (In 3.5, at least.)

    But if the board game confirms her as a pixie, then I guess we have inexplicably Tiny pixies in addition to Medium goblins and sylphs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    But if the board game confirms her as a pixie, then I guess we have inexplicably Tiny pixies, too.
    What kind of messed up size categories does the OotS world have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    But pixies are Small creatures. (In 3.5, at least.)

    But if the board game confirms her as a pixie, then I guess we have inexplicably Tiny pixies in addition to Medium goblins and sylphs.
    What makes us think the Pixie is tiny? Small creatures start at 2' tall, and given Haley's height as a reference, that looks about correct.

    Edit: Just did the math, 2.25 pixies = haley's height (checked in paint, won't post due to not wanting to alter Rich's art) which means that Haley has to be shorter than 4'6" for the pixie to classify as tiny (4.5 / 2.25 = 2 feet tall, exactly)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Epic
    Actually, Rich has kind of an odd way of portraying height and size category. Look at the sea trolls and compare them to when Durkon uses Thor's Might.
    That's always bugged me - Durkon ought to only be Large when using the spell, and given he's a dwarf it should be on the small end of Large, to boot. He's easily Huge there - a good four times taller than any Medium-sized creatures nearby.

    My bet is that he just wants to make it obvious - it's better to have a flat-out "oh no, it's dwarfzilla" effect than to just make him a little bit bigger, given that truly monstrous size makes the advantages of being bigger a lot more obvious. The comic's nature makes it a lot easier to show him squishing goblins and zombies than to have him send them flying.

    EDIT: it's also possible that the extra size is trying to take into account the ridiculous benefits Righteous Might used to confer pre-errata; +8 strength and +4 con isn't consistent with a single increase in size category, so it's entirely possible that the OotS version actually does make Durkon Huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    What makes us think the Pixie is tiny? Small creatures start at 2' tall, and given Haley's height as a reference, that looks about correct.
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    Yeah, that is most certainly a Pixie. That is NOT a small creature.
    Does not compute.

    But she doesn't seem much taller than Qarr, who is Tiny and describes himself as 18-inches tall. Of course, that was over 500 strips later. I doubt Rich was even thinking about the height of pixies at the time.
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    Does not compute.
    So... are you arguing that Haley is shorter than four and a half feet tall? Because I pretty much proved the pixie was small, my hasty gut reaction not withstanding :P
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    No, I do not get how before you implied the pixie was Tiny ("That is NOT a small creature."), yet now said "What makes us think the Pixie is tiny?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    No, I do not get how before you implied the pixie was Tiny ("That is NOT a small creature."), yet now said "What makes us think the Pixie is tiny?"
    Because I made a mistake? People do that, you know :P

    And, to be honest, I was comparing Celia to the pixie, forgetting she was drawn as Medium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    Because I made a mistake? People do that, you know :P
    What I found odd was how you basically said there's no reason to assume the pixie was tiny, despite you yourself thinking otherwise earlier.

    I was more confused than anything else, not offended or anything.
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    Well, perhaps she IS a Sylph, a Small-sized one, but she is wearing high heels, and that makes the difference. Belkar can turn into the allmighty "Medium Sized Belkar" using his stilts.
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    High heels move you up a Size category? I think not.

    Besides, Celia being a Small creature would make pursuing a relationship with Roy rather difficult, correct?
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