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    Default The Lyapunov Affair: Chaos Diplomacy

    Current Turn: Summer 1908 - Retreats

    Current Map (after Spring 1908)


    Retreats due Monday at 10pm

    Fall 1908 Orders are due Thursday 3/22 at 10pm PDT

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    Winter 1900

    The virus that had wiped out the leaders of every world government could not have been created by chance, but it didn't really matter now. England, Austria, France and every other major power had fallen into chaos. Violence was erupting in the streets and regional warlords had taken over control. But this was still Europe and some had realized how they could turn the impending war to their advantage. Out of the flames of chaos a new empire would be created.

    Okay...

    Our Map


    Countries (okay, Supply Centers)
    A-Ankara - Shular
    B-Belgium - 101jir
    C-Berlin - LTDave Grytorm
    D-Brest - Salmon
    E-Budapest - Jamin
    F-Bulgaria - tiaxrulesall
    G-Constantinople - Grue Bait
    H-Denmark - Niezck
    I-Edinburgh - Inanisvoid
    J-Greece - Kalirren
    K-Holland - Pelfaid
    L-Kiel - Salzar
    N-Liverpool - Chambers
    P-London - Makleveh The Grimmace
    Q-Marsailles - Locus Splynn
    R-Moscow - nolispe
    S-Munich - Mael
    T-Naples - C'nor
    U-Norway - Thrice Dead Cat
    V-Paris - Splynn
    W-Portugal - The Grimmace
    X-Rome - Deathslayer7
    Y-Rumania - Murska
    Z-Serbia - Fallout Silverlich Spate
    0-Sevastopol - 52.5 Lemons
    1-Smyrna - yugi24862
    2-Spain - IcemanJRC
    3-St. Petersburg - 4is111
    4-Sweden - Vexen
    5-Trieste - TBFProgrammer
    6-Tunis - DMBlackhart
    7-Venice - Mistral Thrice Dead Cat
    8-Vienna - Dextral TsukikoJ
    9-Warsaw - Eternis


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    A-Ankara - Shular
    Ankara
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    P-London - The Grimmace
    London
    Edinburgh
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    Q-Marsailles - Splynn
    Marsailles
    Spain
    Paris

    R-Moscow - nolispe
    Moscow
    Warsaw
    St. Petersburg

    X-Rome - Deathslayer7
    Rome
    Tunis
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    Y-Rumania - Murska
    Rumania
    Smyrna
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    5-Trieste - TBFProgrammer
    Trieste
    Vienna
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    Submitting Orders
    I would prefer (but do not require) that orders be sent to giantitpdip (at) gmail (dot) com, an email account I just set up for this purpose - 34 orders will rapidly overflow my inbox. However, if you want a quick response, or if you have a question, you're probably better off PMing me. Whatever the case, please have the initials "TLA", the word "orders", the name of your SC, and the date (season, year) in the subject of the email or PM if you're submitting orders.

    An example would be "TLA: Trieste Spring 1901 Orders" or "TLA: Trieste 1900 Builds"

    Deadlines
    At the end of every post where I report your orders I will give a deadline for the next set of orders. Approximately 24 hours before orders are due, I will post a 24 hour warning (so you should check whenever the thread is bumped). If this warning is less than 12 hours before the deadline (because I forgot) I will be lenient until 12 hours after my posted warning. Any of you who have played with me in previous games will know I'm usually nice with waiting a bit for people who've forgotten to submit orders. That will not be the case in this game: there's 34 of you and the game would just slow down too much.

    For Beginners
    If you ever have any questions, don't hesitate to PM me. I'm pretty good with rules questions. I obviously can't help with your negotiation questions though

    Right now, everyone should post once in this thread
    Let everyone know how you prefer to be reached and if you'd like to introduce yourself as the Duke of <whatever>, that's cool too.

    Get going! Talk, diplomacize (if that's a word), backstab, etc.

    Winter 1900 Builds are due Sunday 11/27 at 10pm PDT
    But don't worry, you'll have a full week for spring orders
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    French Austrians - Realpolitik

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    I'm here and... erm...

    I have no idea what to do.
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    I say we completely leave our fate in the hands of the trustworthy Murska and continue in complete safety.

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    I am here and as I my first order of business I am renaming Holland to The Invisible Country. You would not believe how long it took me to find it even knowing where it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murska View Post
    I'm here and... erm...

    I have no idea what to do.
    Sounds like your typical Chaos affair. Clearly, you should try some experimental aerial recon units!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murska View Post
    I'm here and... erm...

    I have no idea what to do.
    I think that for the first 1-2 years that's going to be how things work. I wouldn't worry too much, everyone else is in the same boat
    It says signature, but when I tried to sign my name, I just got pen on my computer screen.

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    French Austrians - Realpolitik

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    I keep staring at my country hoping some inspiration will strike as to a good strategy but so far nothing.

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    Alexis D'Ashkemprov, Newly "Elected" Grand Duke of Moscovy, surveyed his new dominion. It was quite large, really. In fact... As of tuesday, it was the largest country in Europe. Wow. Three weeks ago he had been a young nobleman's hunting buddy. After what the remains of the papers had already dubbed "The Lyapunov Affair", things had got messy fast.
    Ah well.
    Time to get to work. He sent out a flood of messages, assembled the army of Moscow, conscripted most of the peasants who were stupid enough to remain in their villages when he walked through, and made a collection of patriotic speeches in public places about Moscow's willingness to fight to reassert it's glorious history as a powerful and righteous state, as well as releasing dozens of declarations to everyone who would listen about the willingness of the people of Moscow to fight to the death in defense of their territorial integrity.
    ****
    Just before he went to bed, he reserved a carriage on the Trans-Siberian Railway for himself, bought a nice house in Vladivostok, and embezzeled several billion rubles. Nothing wrong with having a contingency plan.



    Diplomatic letter to everyone:
    The Grand Duke can be contacted via PM, and informs the new nations of Europe that Moscow stands resolute and the people are unifed behind their glorious leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelonius View Post
    Well, strangely enough a faction with Reputation 0 and history of past betrayals proved itself to be rather untrustworthy. My hat is off for the Mothriders.

    Damn, about 29 stats in one swipe. Since I'm clearly the next I'm booby-trapping every inch of the Maze.

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    Greetings! After the recent unsettling times, Ankara is once again open for buisiness. Please PM me to discuss any needs you might have.
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    Black Friday. That's what they called it when the dust settled. The day of the plague.

    London checking in. And how would you describe someone from London? Londoner? Cockney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makleveh View Post
    Black Friday. That's what they called it when the dust settled. The day of the plague.

    London checking in. And how would you describe someone from London? Londoner? Cockney?
    Londoner is correct.

    Edit: Oh, and may I publicly request BLA be a demilitarized zone? Not that it would be practical to move into it first turn anyway, but still, had to be said.
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    Serbia checking in.
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    Belgium here.
    Long Sig (now with nonsense riddles).

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    Denmark checking in!

    @Wamp: When you post order results and such, would you mind posting the results in a jDip-accepted format, maybe at the end in a spoiler or something? I'd quite like to follow this one along in jDip and use it to test, etc. Still not all that great on the rules.
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    King Francisco Careta of Portugal checking in.

    I can be best reached by pm's.
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    Spain would like to be contacted through PM please.
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    Marsailles reporting in. PMs are great. Carrier Pigeons acceptable.

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    Constani Contant Constanstinopolopoly Constantinople is open to new allies. Best to be reached through PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niezck View Post
    @Wamp: When you post order results and such, would you mind posting the results in a jDip-accepted format, maybe at the end in a spoiler or something? I'd quite like to follow this one along in jDip and use it to test, etc. Still not all that great on the rules.
    Sure, can do!
    It says signature, but when I tried to sign my name, I just got pen on my computer screen.

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    French Austrians - Realpolitik

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    This is Vexen, reporting in for Sweden
    I will be out of town until Monday evening. Internet is not easy for me here. Can I postpone orders until Monday.

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    Super! the game has started.... now, time for strategy. If I only I had experience with this game. PM will be best to reach me as I just emptied it out so there should be no problem in getting your messages through.

    EDIT: I probably wont be responding to PM's until tomorrow as I still need to read over most of the rules to get a firm grasp of what's going on.
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    Bulgaria here. Brothers, the chaos is too overwhelming, so sane strategy can be conducted, instead we must worship the chaos itself. All hail chaos. Terror shall rule europe... ia ia cthluhu fnagin...

    Well enough of that silliness. I can be reached by pm, and would welcome any alliances and am sure none of you would be treacherous enough to betray me ;P

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    Hello, everyone. My name is Salmon, I am the leader of Brest, and I am a messenger of the CEU (Chaotic European Union). Some of you already know that the CEU has an unstoppable long term plan that was set in motion years ago. For those of you who don't, understand that if you are targeted for termination, there is no way to prevent your inevitable destruction. I advise you to accept your fate.

    Furthermore, the member list of the CEU is its most closely guarded secret. Your neighbor could be a member, and you wouldn't find out until they are one of the last countries left standing at the end of the great war. There is no way to join the CEU. You also cannot bargain with us. Finally, if you choose to destroy me, a lowly messenger who knows very little of the grand plan, another messenger will take my place and you will have played directly into the hands of the CEU.

    May Chaos rule us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salmon View Post
    Hello, everyone. My name is Salmon, I am the leader of Brest, and I am a messenger of the CEU (Chaotic European Union). Some of you already know that the CEU has an unstoppable long term plan that was set in motion years ago. For those of you who don't, understand that if you are targeted for termination, there is no way to prevent your inevitable destruction. I advise you to accept your fate.

    Furthermore, the member list of the CEU is its most closely guarded secret. Your neighbor could be a member, and you wouldn't find out until they are one of the last countries left standing at the end of the great war. There is no way to join the CEU. You also cannot bargain with us. Finally, if you choose to destroy me, a lowly messenger who knows very little of the grand plan, another messenger will take my place and you will have played directly into the hands of the CEU.

    May Chaos rule us all.
    Hmm.

    So, basically, I only know for sure that I don't belong in the CEU (Since I can't join, sadly) which means if I kill everyone else, I will have thwarted their plans.
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    I say we completely leave our fate in the hands of the trustworthy Murska and continue in complete safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salmon View Post
    Hello, everyone. My name is Salmon, I am the leader of Brest, and I am a messenger of the CEU (Chaotic European Union). Some of you already know that the CEU has an unstoppable long term plan that was set in motion years ago. For those of you who don't, understand that if you are targeted for termination, there is no way to prevent your inevitable destruction. I advise you to accept your fate.

    Furthermore, the member list of the CEU is its most closely guarded secret. Your neighbor could be a member, and you wouldn't find out until they are one of the last countries left standing at the end of the great war. There is no way to join the CEU. You also cannot bargain with us. Finally, if you choose to destroy me, a lowly messenger who knows very little of the grand plan, another messenger will take my place and you will have played directly into the hands of the CEU.

    May Chaos rule us all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Murska View Post
    Hmm.

    So, basically, I only know for sure that I don't belong in the CEU (Since I can't join, sadly) which means if I kill everyone else, I will have thwarted their plans.
    So, if this CEU is so powerful, does anyone else want to volunteer their participation (or lack thereof)? Certainly not me [I'm not, sorry about the awkward wording]. Those who are not in the CEU are supposedly doomed anyway, and those who are are supposedly invulnerable.
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    Liverpool checking in!
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    Well, you can't bargain with the CEU but you can certainly bargain with me. I'll listen to anyone, I'll give advice to anyone and I'm going to consider any deal anyone offers.
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    I say we completely leave our fate in the hands of the trustworthy Murska and continue in complete safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexen View Post
    This is Vexen, reporting in for Sweden
    I will be out of town until Monday evening. Internet is not easy for me here. Can I postpone orders until Monday.
    Is there any way you can get your builds in by Sunday? I'd rather not take requests to postpone orders given how many players we have. Then again, for this turn only, postponing orders wouldn't really slow down the negotiations... Still, in terms of setting a precedent, if there's any way you can get your build in that'd be awesome
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    Trieste checking in. I'm a good ally to have: I understand the rules well enough not to be incompetent at moving my armies, but I am new enough to be easily overwhelmed when you decide that my SCs would look better in your color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBFProgrammer View Post
    Trieste checking in. I'm a good ally to have: I understand the rules well enough not to be incompetent at moving my armies, but I am new enough to be easily overwhelmed when you decide that my SCs would look better in your color.
    But you're invisible - how will anyone know how to find you?
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    Saint Petersburg reporting in. I won't be able to extend a personal pm of introduction to each of you, as is my habit, so let me summarize here:
    I don't like to lie or break trust, especially when it can be avoided. I find that two nations working together while plotting to betray each other are much more vulnerable to outside threats, even more so in a game like this where no one can gain territory without exposing themselves to attack. For this reason, I am open to any suggested alliances and always willing to negotiate.

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