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    Ooh, interesting. I like V's philosophical stance on the whole thing.
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    So V must have a bit of wisdom, in addition to Intelligence.

    Also, this is why Qarr is still an imp.
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    Glad to see that V has somewhat recovered from the "room full of rotting people I killed" thing.
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    Qarr really isn't cut out for the whole trickery thing is he? Outsmarted by Blackwing and V. I pity him if he has to talk to Haley at any point. He will spill the entire IFCC's plan
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    Hehehe... Qarr being outsmarted strips are some of my favorite strips.

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    Typo in the last panel: "descended".

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    Qarr gets no respect. I like that!
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    Wonderful comic Giant, Its nice to see that things are still comming along nicely.
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    Rule #1 for dealing with fiends - figure out what they want you to do, then do something else.

    And someone is clearly on an April 15th kick judging by the title
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    Wow I didn't expect to be online when the comic updated. O.O That rarely happens to me. Whoo!

    And I guess it is good to see V actually doing something now. I'm all tense waiting for things to get to the climax of this arc.
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    Wow Qarr is bad at this. Though I've got to admit the title really scared me at first. I thought the fiends were calling in their debt right here, right now.

    That's not to say they won't, but at least it didn't happen this strip.

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    Clever strip. Though I think Blackwings "there's something I'm missing" might foreshadow V being taken over by the Fiends again soon?
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    I can't help but think Qarr was only pretending to try to kill Blackwing earlier, to keep up the illusion that they want V's soul for eternal damnation.

    It also seems Blackwing hasn't pieced together that the "friend of a friend" is Sabine and that the IFCC has been manipulating things from the very beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son View Post
    Typo in the last panel: "descended".
    Whoops. Should be fixed now.
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    You have to love deductive reasoning. I can't help but wonder how V is going to help fix the unmitigated disaster that this has been. I wonder if he is packing a control undead spell.

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    Rich, you are such a tease with these titles.

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    You have to love deductive reasoning. I can't help but wonder how V is going to help fix the unmitigated disaster that this has been. I wonder if he is packing a control undead spell.
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    Ok V. Now you know the Order could be in trouble, and that you need to get your mind right. Get back to them as fast as you can or all will be lost.

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    While the thread is in its infancy I'll explain the title joke (in case someone wonders about it later.)

    "Credits and deductions" is a twofold pun. The first meaning is that these are terms related to filing your taxes, the deadline for which in the United States was yesterday, 4/15. The Giant likely had taxes on the brain (or knew we would) when he came up with the comic title.

    The second meaning is in two parts: first, "Credit" also means "being responsible for" (as in "I took credit for my hard work.") Qarr's lie is that the splices, rather than V, are responsible for Familicide, but V sees through the charade and owns up to the evil he has committed, taking credit for it himself.

    Second, "deduction" has the other meaning "to arrive at a conclusion on a logical basis" (as in "I deduced that he was the murderer based on the evidence at the crime scene.") This is related to Blackwing and V attempting to figure out Qarr's angle, and do anything but what he wants them to do.''

    As a possible third layer of the pun - credits and deductions are good things to have on your tax return, because they reduce the final bill you owe to the government (or maximize your tax refund.) In the comic, credits and deductions are a good thing for V as well, because they prevent him from arriving at the false conclusions Qarr is attempting to bait him with.
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    This is why V is a fantastic character. It's not easy to write intelligent characters who actually act intelligently. Look at how many Hollywood movies feature alleged geniuses who make incredibly stupid decisions because the plot says so.

    But scenes like this and V's battle with Xykon (post splice, where s/he actually uses smarts to get the upper hand) show that his/her INT score is more than just a number on a character sheet.
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    Heh. The smug smile on his face, ruined a few panels later...

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    V acting smart is best ^.^ Super happy with this.
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    Strips like this remind me of how awesome V can be.
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    Thank the powers that be that's over. I really like the direction the strips have been going- the tensions just keep building!

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    i love how much info they can get out of Quarr so easily

    the IFCC should really jsut give him que cards to read or at least an earpiece

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    Yep, Qarr and the Linear Guild are made for each other.

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    Yes! V-being-functional time!
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    Thanks Giant!
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    Now this is why Vaarsuvius is my favorite character. She's really clever to use Quarr's lie against him.
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