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    Hello, everyone, and welcome to the thirty fourth beautiful installment of the thread for the discussion, celebration and support of of everyone who isn't quite heterocisnormative.

    Please note that although the title of the thread names only the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Asexual communities, it is intended as an all inclusive environment. Everyone is welcome. L, G, B,T, A, Q, I, A, N, V, P, R, Q, Ω, ♅, everyone. As long as they behave themselves.

    If you have a question or two about LGBTA+, you can ask it here! You can ask for advice and support in here.

    In addition, many members are willing to give private advice one on one, either through email or PM. The best way to do this is asking for PM help in thread, or else to PM one of the following people:

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    KenderWizard: General/basics, gender and feminism, bisexuality
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    Lea Plath: Genderfluidity
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    Eldest: General/basics, bisexuality
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    Warkitty: Academic/technical discussions
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    Asta Kask: Biochemistry/neurobiology
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    Astrella: GSRM rights, feminism, trans stuff
    Asteron Questar: Relationships, depression

    Some people are also willing to talk off-board, through Skype or email or other means, this is especially useful if your question involves board-forbidden topics such as religion or politics. Also, we can't (and ethically shouldn't!) give medical advice. If you need medical advice, please see a professional!


    Here are the rules of this thread!

    • Everyone is welcome. Let's try to keep from seeming otherwise.
    • Keep this topic free of politics and religion. (so, don't violate the board rules, plz)
    • It's beyond the scope of this thread to discuss whether LGBT is "Right." (And really, most discussions probably should avoid moralizing too much anyway)
    • Please refrain from posting sexually explicit content. (Keep it friendly as well as board safe )


    Here are the links for the previous threads, where much of use or interest may be found:


    And, for reference, here is the Thousand&Wordster Dictionary of Commonly Used LGBTAitp Words and Phrases
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    Lagerbeta: A fine brewski to be drunk by queers and allies.
    LGBT: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans*
    Trans*: Transsexual and Transgender
    LGBTA: LGBT+Asexual/Allies
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    Q - Queer and Questioning
    U - Unidentified
    I - Intersex
    L - Lesbian
    T - Transgender, Transexual
    B - Bisexual
    A - Asexual
    G - Gay, Genderqueer

    Allies: Straight people that support equality for sexuality and gender minorities.
    MtF: Male-to-Female: A woman born with male nibblies, who may or may not be seeking HRT and/or SRS. (AKA: trans woman)
    FtM: Female-to-Male: A man born with female nibblies, who may or may not be seeking HRT and/or SRS. (AKA: trans man)
    GQ: Genderqueer.
    CS: Cis-sexual: sex and gender match (a male with male nibblies, a female with female nibblies.
    TS: Transsexual: Sex and gender disparity.
    HRT: Hormone replacement therapy. MtF's take more progestrogens and oestrogens and FtM's take more testosterone (I think?)
    SRS: Sex Reassignment Surgery: Surgery to replace/transform a vagina into a penis, or vice versa depending on direction. Mastectomies or plastic surgery may be used on breasts.
    FFS: Facial Feminization Surgery: Plastic surgery to reduce chin/nose/cheekbones. not very common.
    AFAB/AMAB: Assigned Female/Male at Birth
    FAAB/MAAB: Female/Male Assigned at Birth.


    Man: A cisman or transman. Male.
    Woman: A ciswoman or transwoman. Female.
    Androgyne: Gender Identity with male and female aspects.
    Genderfluid: Someone who fluctuates between male and female.
    Agendered: Someone who feels neither male nor female.
    Third-gendered: Someone who fits in a local society's third gender, usually male performing female tasks, occasionally vice versa.
    Masculine: Something generally associated with men.
    Feminine: Something generally associated with women.

    Lesbian: A woman who is attracted to women.
    Gay: A man who is attracted to men.
    Homosexual: A person who is attracted to members of their gender.
    Heterosexual: A person who is attracted to members of the opposite gender.
    Bisexual: A person who is attracted to two genders (usually men and women, sometimes transgender instead of one of those).
    Pansexual: A person who is attracted to people regardless of gender.
    Asexual: A person who does not feel any/some sexual attraction.
    Demisexual: A person who is sexually attracted to someone(s) they have formed an intense emotional relationship with.
    Polyamorous: A person who is interested in a relationship with more than one person.
    Radosexual: A person who is only attracted to rad people.
    Pomosexual: A person who avoids SO labels.

    Sexual Orientation: How one identifies who they are attracted to. (SO)
    Gender Identity: How one feels inside society's idea of "man, woman, or other". (GI)
    Gender Expression: How one expresses their GI to society. (GE)
    Significant Other(s): Person you are in a relationship with. (SO)
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    Some news to open with: the Boy Scouts of America is putting forward a proposal to be voted on that would, "If approved, ... mean that 'no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone.' The BSA will maintain the current membership policy for all adults," (Boy Scouts public relations director Deron Smith said).
    Source & more info.

    Obviously not as far reaching as it should be as a gay member would be kicked out when they stop being a scout and (would otherwise) become a leader, and it's just a proposal, but given how staunchly they were defending their right to exclude it's a sign of progress if nothing else.
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    Mrr. Earlier, I had a rather unpleasant experience. I was walking down the street (en femme, as I m full time these days) when I passed a group of girls. Suddenly, there came a cry of "It's a man! Hey, it's a man! Let's see your d***!"

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    Day of Silence is done with. I'm not good at being quiet, but I managed.
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    Well, that was really rude. And jerkish. And stupid. And...
    I could keep up the litany of descriptive words for a while, but you get the idea.

    And Kender, there's an extra [/quote] at the end of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliomance View Post
    Mrr. Earlier, I had a rather unpleasant experience. I was walking down the street (en femme, as I m full time these days) when I passed a group of girls. Suddenly, there came a cry of "It's a man! Hey, it's a man! Let's see your d***!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliomance View Post
    Mrr. Earlier, I had a rather unpleasant experience. I was walking down the street (en femme, as I m full time these days) when I passed a group of girls. Suddenly, there came a cry of "It's a man! Hey, it's a man! Let's see your d***!"

    *hugs*

    What on earth possesses people to say stuff like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliomance View Post
    Mrr. Earlier, I had a rather unpleasant experience. I was walking down the street (en femme, as I m full time these days) when I passed a group of girls. Suddenly, there came a cry of "It's a man! Hey, it's a man! Let's see your d***!"

    Look at it this way. You needed to pass them closely for them to notice. Just think how many more haven't noticed that day.

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    @Zorg: Yeah, I saw something about that. Well, baby steps are still steps!

    Quote Originally Posted by Heliomance View Post
    Mrr. Earlier, I had a rather unpleasant experience. I was walking down the street (en femme, as I m full time these days) when I passed a group of girls. Suddenly, there came a cry of "It's a man! Hey, it's a man! Let's see your d***!"

    What the hell is wrong with some people?

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    And Kender, there's an extra
    at the end of that.[/QUOTE]

    Oops, thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliomance View Post
    Mrr. Earlier, I had a rather unpleasant experience. I was walking down the street (en femme, as I m full time these days) when I passed a group of girls. Suddenly, there came a cry of "It's a man! Hey, it's a man! Let's see your d***!"

    I'm sorry. Some people don't know what they're talking about. Also, it's kind of disturbing.

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    Aaaaand all the stuff from last thread, gone. Copy/paste function I want to light you on fire right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heliomance View Post
    Mrr. Earlier, I had a rather unpleasant experience. I was walking down the street (en femme, as I m full time these days) when I passed a group of girls. Suddenly, there came a cry of "It's a man! Hey, it's a man! Let's see your d***!"

    Wow. People can be terrible at times. I wonder what coul possibly prompt people to scream "flash me" and think its okay? If they were a gaggle of guys and asked you to flash your boobs you could get them in trouble with the law, yes?

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    Blargle. I work retail, and could not avail the situation.

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    What was the Day of Silence?

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    So, if a series ends with all female regulars paired off with someone else or dead, and the two male leads who already have massive ho-yay living alone together in a space with only one bed, and a cat, where is that on the (Possibly unintentional) subtext-o-meter?

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    What was the Day of Silence?

    http://www.dayofsilence.org/


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    Sounds like a great way to finally ..speak up on LGBT-issues.


    I'm wondering something about LGBT. Am I the only one who thinks that's the worst name ever for a movement? I mean, try speaking it out loud, it has no vowels. No wonder I know of it only because of internet discussions and flyers in the canteen.
    Perhabs english speaking people have fewer problems with that word. Don't know. Sounds awkward to me, especially with the other additions, like Q, A and plus.

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    Think FBI, not NASA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kindablue View Post
    Think FBI, not NASA.
    Nice one Bloo~ XD

    But yes. We say "Ell-Gee-Bee-Tee-Cue-Ei" not... L'guhbutkuh or something.
    Personally, I don't think I have ever mentioned LGBTA except in reference to this thread. There's usually a better contextual version such as queer, trans, gay, gay rights, etc.


    Alright. *dons old, battered armor*

    Quote Originally Posted by Socratov View Post
    the question is why. Why has chivalry gotten a bad rep? Why is chivalry impopular?Why do we as a society think that chivalry is a bad thing?
    No, the question is why do you keep phrasing questions like the world is out to punish you? that's what I meant by you sound entitled, like you're mad you're not getting the rewards for a certain form of behavior.

    Chivalry is not unpopular, otherwise it wouldn't have the social traction necessary to still exist.

    Chivalry does not have a bad reputation. Men who lean on chivalry to excuse their behaviors do have a bad rep. they may all themselves chivalrous but they aren't. The bad rep belongs solely to jack asses.

    Corollary: some people are just terrible people. Some people just want to bring others down. This has nothing to do with your traits, and everything to do with theirs. See people ranting about "Feminazis" despite there being so few who for the bill. It's easy to dismiss someone for a buzzword. Ignore that.
    I had a guy get upset I didn't stop the bus for him... After he remained silent when I asked if he wanted to catch this bus. He called me a slur of names, raised his hand at me, threatened my life, because he's a cantankerous homeless jerk who blames the world for his faults. He called me a [n-word]. That doesn't mean suddenly the world is against African folk. Someone gets upset you open a door, calls you chivalrous as a pejorative. That doesn't mean people are against chivalry.

    And "We as a society" is far too broad to make such declarative statements. Sub societies exist, and each continent seems to have several of it own societal pools. Society at that level has very few common denominators; they don't want to die, do want to procreate, and don't want to suffer. That's about it, and even that is glossing over a lot of quibbles.

    Have we, as a society, beocme so paranoid and insecure about ourselves that we don't trust chivalrous people into meaning well without considering the possibility of insults first?
    You presume that insults were the first consideration.

    The honest truth is people use service as a form of power. You are throwing an action or series of actions that you admit are rooted in sexism an based on courting behavior at people who probably have their own baggage, and expecting their personal takes not to matter because you were just 'being chivalrous', how dare they not respond the way you expect them to? There's a lot here, and most of it is that chivalry as presented exists as a form of expectation, almost codified privilege use.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cerlis View Post
    I dont have many female friends or associates so my opinion is compete bollox probably. But based off what i think is a very vocal minority that some (read: a few loud ones) want to be treated as social equals but still want to be taken care of. Or have their cake and eat it too.
    There is that, yes.

    Also, if its based on the subject matter, shouldnt it be "Sorry Mario, but Princess didn't need you.
    I love this idea~!

    Come to think of it , i think I instinctively hesitate to going out of the way to help men physically (such as opening doors) because I'm afraid they will feel "taken care of" and not like it.

    I've never got anything bad for holding open a door for a lady though. * Buuuut....I dont go outside often and also I live in Texas.
    That makes sense. You should always consider the person before doing Something. You can get a lot out of body language and such.

    I'm really touchy feely, but I don't really bother with a lot of my guy friends because it makes them out of sorts (or creeps me out on occasion).

    Quote Originally Posted by Keveak View Post
    As to the example; do note what words you used for the two traits. A man is expected to be gallant, but women want to be treated as independent.
    Exactly! Thanks Keveak.

    It's an objective presentation of a distinctly subjective viewpoint. Taking self opinion as fact and projecting it. Good to have a framework for that phenomenon.

    Regardless, it's strange that the actions of the man are presented from the man's perspective, and the actions of the woman are... Guessed at from the man's perspective.

    On an unrelated and sad note, I fell over this story. I do not know the person asking for help, but it sounds like as miserable situation and I was hoping to ask if anyone knows a way to help people who have been thrown out from home in California. ;_;
    Sadness. I cannot help, as I have no money, no room... Which sucks as this sort of hospitality has always been a goal of mine for when I was an adult.

    Damn you, fiscal responsibility and crushing weight of socioeconomics!

    Quote Originally Posted by Raineh Daze View Post
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    Okay, seriously, you're frowning on the entire concept of chivalry and the existence of the word gallant? Now that's just... ridiculous. Exceedingly.
    No. I, personally, am frowning on people who use 'chivalrous' as a justification for acting in the letter of a thing and not the spirit and expect recompense. The demonstration of Gallant was merely an example to illustrate that point.

    I think the idealogical concept of chivalry should apply to anyone in a position of power, retroengineered or no. Gender is irrelevant; if your position gives you authority over someone else, stick to it. Or at least the parts that have aged well (so... skipping the bits about never retreating, religion, and nationalism). Don't lie, be generous, protect the weak--whomsoever that may be--and do good rather than evil. That's hardly something to whine about.
    That's a nice thing, indeed.
    But that is not chivalry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lorsa View Post
    Wikipedia defines the ancient code of chivalry as:

    The code can be summarized in ten "commandments":

    Believe the Church's teachings and observe all the Church's directions.

    Defend the Church.

    Respect and defend all weaknesses.

    Love your country.

    Do not recoil before an enemy.

    A single coward could discourage an entire army. Even if the knights knew death was near, they would rather die fighting than show weakness.

    Show no mercy to the Infidel. Do not hesitate to make war with them.

    Perform all duties that agree with the laws of God.

    Never lie or go back on one's word.

    Be generous to everyone.

    Always and everywhere be right and good against evil and injustice.


    There is nothing in that code that says anything about women. It does say quite a few things about religion though. I think much of present day gender-based behavior codes are based much later in history; the victorian era decorum and early 20th century. An era that was highly sexist.
    Chivalry is one of those things that were codified after the fact to make younger generations fall in line, much like bushido. "The crusaders were chivalrous! You should be like them, and not such a prat!" and all.

    Chivalry is also part and parcel of courtly behavior, including courtly love. Further, the permutations need to be taken into account. Chivalry is (part of) an equation, and it is disingenuous to point at 2+2 and say it has nothing to do with 4, only with 2s.

    Now paying for people is a generous thing and it should be encouraged.
    It is also a complex social cue caught up in multicultural baggage, and economic baggage. For some people, paying for them is an insult. For others, it's 'merely' rude. For others, it's whatever. For some, it's a competition – see who can get to the check first. For others, it's a burden.

    When your 'generosity' looks an awful lot like being smug and rubbing your money in my face and buying me something so I'll owe you later, then it's not generous. It's manipulative. And yes, I've both dealt with those kinds of people, and thought I was when I wasn't. Luckily I am able to talk through these sorts of things...

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    I suspect what they mean is gentlemanly behavior. From Wikihow.

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    15 However, do not fake this! Women can always tell if you are secretly a sleazy slimeball hiding behind the appearance of a gentlemen. If all else fails, simply remember this - being gentlemanly is about being courteous and respectful.
    And there we are!

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    My understanding is that it's linked with the virgin-whore dichotomy and the sort of hypocrisy of thinking that terms it worse to have consensual sex with a virgin than to rape a "slut." *There's also historical issues with basically no one ever actually living up to it and the problems that are encountered when people behave in a moral framework not because it is the right thing to do but because it is the socially obligated/proper/correct thing to do.

    My POV is less that it's societally condemned but that as a society we have a rather "schizophrenic" view of chivalry, more properly a fragmented view with a general lack of consensus except for within certain sub-sections of the general populace. *Though, I must admit, it is the misapplication/entitlement/missing the point and claiming chivalry that is more railed against than people actually being orthopraxic. *Which could lead into an entire discussion of culture and the competing emphasis between right-thinking and right-action, but it'd be almost impossible to avoid going into some morass or another, sadly. *Fascinating concepts though, so I'd recommend boning up on it if it's new ground to you.
    Yes. All sound.

    My phone doesn't think orthopraxic is a word.

    Well, some people think they're interrelated or synonymous. *Also, you're not allowed to be a nice guy, because of "nice guys."
    Poor phrasing. Don't be a Nice Guy. Be nice. If you happen to also be a guy, I'm so sorry, but don't let that hold you back! Chin up!


    Personally? I like the Old code as presented in dragonheart.

    "A knight is sworn to Valor
    *His word speaks only Truth
    *His heart knows only Virtue
    *His blade defends the Helpless
    *His might upholds the Weak
    *His wrath undoes the Wicked"

    That guy right there? Be that guy. No one will be able to seriously hassle you for chivalry ever.

    Also my favorite rendition of the Paladin Code. And just general excellent advice.

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    Nice one Bloo~ XD

    But yes. We say "Ell-Gee-Bee-Tee-Cue-Ei" not... L'guhbutkuh or something.
    Personally, I don't think I have ever mentioned LGBTA except in reference to this thread. There's usually a better contextual version such as queer, trans, gay, gay rights, etc.
    On the other hand, the pronunciation "Lagerbeta" is awesome and suggests a new alcohol type.
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    Represent.
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    That's neat! I'll be spending a lot of time in Upper Franconia from October on, but if you like give me a heads-up when you need help unpacking or just company. There's at least one other playgrounder nearby.
    That would be me
    I'll be around until october, after that i'm (hopefully) in Munich. If i get my bachelor this semester, which is not yet absolutely sure.
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    I'm pretty sure 34 >3, actually.
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    I'm pretty sure 34 >3, actually.
    Agreed. I move that we edit the thread title to add an extra exclamation mark, because then if you interpret that as a factorial you have 3!! = 6! = 720 and indeed 34 < 720.
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    Agreed. I move that we edit the thread title to add an extra exclamation mark, because then if you interpret that as a factorial you have 3!! = 6! = 720 and indeed 34 < 720.
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    Oooh new thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkishproverb View Post
    So, if a series ends with all female regulars paired off with someone else or dead, and the two male leads who already have massive ho-yay living alone together in a space with only one bed, and a cat, where is that on the (Possibly unintentional) subtext-o-meter?
    They're so very clearly gay that I can't think of something that isn't a stereotype to convey the level of camp that must be?

    So basically the only way it could have been more overt was if it were stated directly. And that it was so clear without them stating it overtly is kind of weird. Unless they're like, brothers in a bunk-bed context or something, since age and such can have some influence on the variables, but... really...

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    Aye, the dragonheart oath is great, and truly are good words to live by. But so are these.


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    I try flirting with guys, coming onto guys and whatnot, but I keep thinking of Cody. I kind of want to move on but don't at the same time. Heck, I even had a dream last night about a cute guy I met at a pub (completely fictional, never been in a pub) and we ended up going home together and cuddling and then I woke up crying and feeling empty. I don't even know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mynxae View Post
    I try flirting with guys, coming onto guys and whatnot, but I keep thinking of Cody. I kind of want to move on but don't at the same time. Heck, I even had a dream last night about a cute guy I met at a pub (completely fictional, never been in a pub) and we ended up going home together and cuddling and then I woke up crying and feeling empty. I don't even know...
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    Coidzor: the possibility did run through my head, but... Well, I don't want to go down that road. That road leads to headbutting things. And I have a horn, so that's either murder, or if they survive it's a lobotomy and this practicing medicine sans license.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mynxae View Post
    I try flirting with guys, coming onto guys and whatnot, but I keep thinking of Cody. I kind of want to move on but don't at the same time. Heck, I even had a dream last night about a cute guy I met at a pub (completely fictional, never been in a pub) and we ended up going home together and cuddling and then I woke up crying and feeling empty. I don't even know...
    don't know what to tell ya, mate. That's going to happen. You can cherish the sorrow if you like, but then you are forcing yourself to feel bad.

    Other than that... I dunno. I can't really do polite relationship talk.

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    Can't tell how valid it is. Personally, I find it's a little stupid. But maybe it'll be more helpful to you, who knows.
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