Weapon Finesse

[Ali]

If a monk with weapon finesse attacked with his flurry of blows, would his dex modifier replace his strength modifier for all his blows?

I presume it would do, but I long for clarification...

[Lord Lorac Silvanos]

Yes, Unarmed strikes and natural weapons are considered light and benefit from WF.

[Ali]

My thanks, Silvanos.

[Lord Lorac Silvanos]

NP:)

Always glad to help.

[Fax Celestis]

He's sort of made it his job around here. ;)

[Skyserpent]

But could a Monk wielding a Quarterstaff Finesse THAT?

[Lord Lorac Silvanos]

No, it can only be done with weapons that qualify for Weapon Finesse.

[Viscount Einstrauss]

Try it with two keen kukri's. That combo is AWESOME.

[Matthew]

I'm pretty certain the Monk can Finesse his Off Hand Staff Attacks, just not his Primary Staff Attack (which works with Power Attack).

[Bears With Lasers]

Try it with two keen kukri's. That combo is AWESOME.

No, it's not.

[Lord Lorac Silvanos]

I'm pretty certain the Monk can Finesse his Off Hand Staff Attacks, just not his Primary Staff Attack (which works with Power Attack).

Yes indeed, one end is considered light. (Usually the off-hand end becuase of the penalties)

[Matthew]

I think it's always the Off Hand end in the case of Double Weapons.

[Viscount Einstrauss]

Gah, I always think the Kukri's a monk weapon. That's not even an Asian word.

[TheElfLord]

Gah, I always think the Kukri's a monk weapon. That's not even an Asian word.

Well it is an Asian word, unless Nepal has moved out of Asia.

[Lord Lorac Silvanos]

I think it's always the Off Hand end in the case of Double Weapons.

It does not say directly, but it might very well have been the intend and it will also be optimal thing to do in almost all situations.

A character can fight with both ends of a double weapon as if fighting with two weapons, but he or she incurs all the normal attack penalties associated with two-weapon combat, just as though the character were wielding a one-handed weapon and a light weapon.

[Matthew]

The bloody Two Weapon Fighting Rules are notoriously all over the place, but this is what I was thinking of:

Double Weapons

You can use a double weapon to make an extra attack with the off-hand end of the weapon as if you were fighting with two weapons. The penalties apply as if the off-hand end of the weapon were a light weapon.

Combat - Two Weapon Fighting

[Lord Lorac Silvanos]

Hehe, yes they are.
Let us go with the TWF section :-)

(My quote was from the equipment section)

[Darrin]

Yes, Unarmed strikes and natural weapons are considered light and benefit from WF.

Add the Shadow Blade feat from ToB (add Dex bonus as damage to Shadow Hand weapons) and you can ignore STR as a dump stat.

...except for, like, carrying stuff, I guess.

[silvermesh]

unfortunately your monk doesn't use off-hand attacks in his flurry of blows, even with that quarterstaff, though you can get your extra off-hand attacks with TwF if you take the standard TwF penalties to your entire flurry, though to me it seems silly to bother with finesse for the one weakest blow out of a long chain

edit: though ive always houseruled that the quarterstaff can be finessed, I mean all the coolest quarter-staff fighters are quick guys not big burly fighters.

[Matthew]

Little John?