OOTS #403 - The Discussion Thread

[Ampersand]

That Belkar. I'm happy the Giant noticed the problem with an illusionary prisoner and addressed it, before (as far as I know) any of us nit picking legions in the forum hit on it - score one for him!

A few comics ago, when the Linear Guild was first captured, there was a side discussion on whether or not they would see through the illusion while in the Sapphire Guard's jail and how the illusion was made within the anti-magic field in the first place.

I actually didn't like this one; it kind of sat as a "filler" comic to move the plot along. Eh, still belkar was good.

Hey, after so much not-plot moving, I'll take what I can get.

<snarkiness>So why isn't this thread filled with calls for Hinjo to lose his palidinhood?</snarkiness>

[fangthane]

Every comic featuring Lord Shojo makes me laugh, even when he's not technically in the room. This will make the second time the OOTS have blown off Lord Shojo's request in order to take care of personal business. I wonder how he'll respond now!

What are you talking about?! The business with the Linear Guild overnight didn't affect or delay anything else (at least, there's been no mention thereof).

Their business now is to meet with Shojo so he can have the freshly-resurrected Guy Baker (the wizard who met his demise on the way back from Cliffport) teleport them to Girard's Gate. They have neither blown it off nor pursued personal business in its lieu, and were in fact on the verge of being blown off reciprocally by Lord Shojo.

You're right about Shojo being a great character though. Any NPC canny enough to keep paladins in line (not to mention loyal and obedient) despite not himself being lawful gets my respect.

Ampersand - Why in the world would there be any reason to expect Hinjo to fall? He's never been seen as anything but solicitous, obedient and kind. Unlike Miko, who has made some few on-screen faux-pas and who has the additional emotional content of being an explicit antagonist to the party. That's not snarky, that's outright petty.

[Solara]

Don't worry about it fangthane, I think by now we all expect a certain amount of snarkiness from any of Ampersand's posts.

A few comics ago, when the Linear Guild was first captured, there was a side discussion on whether or not they would see through the illusion while in the Sapphire Guard's jail and how the illusion was made within the anti-magic field in the first place.

I'm more curious about what any of that has to do with the lack of fan complaints about Belkar's illusion eating or not, honestly...

[AyuVince]

I forgot why Roy wanted to see Shojo, is it about the teleportation to the next gate? So is Wizard Guy alive again?

[Gyron]

Yous tricky Rick. Trying to make me think Miko had arrived early.

[Woot Spitum]

What are you talking about?! The business with the Linear Guild overnight didn't affect or delay anything else (at least, there's been no mention thereof).

Their business now is to meet with Shojo so he can have the freshly-resurrected Guy Baker (the wizard who met his demise on the way back from Cliffport) teleport them to Girard's Gate. They have neither blown it off nor pursued personal business in its lieu, and were in fact on the verge of being blown off reciprocally by Lord Shojo.

You're right, I forgot that they hadn't left town yet. I guess I enjoyed the last time Lord Shojo got onto them about getting his wizard killed on a subquest so much, that I was hoping he would get a chance to do it again.

[Felinoid]

"What happens when an obvious deception meets an oblivious object?" We now have the answer to that question. Not once, but twice, if you count Elan's association with the destruction of the catapults. Nice turnaround with the cat's food, but Roy's "spiritual kinship" bit was what really sold this one.

[Ampersand]

Why in the world would there be any reason to expect Hinjo to fall? He's never been seen as anything but solicitous, obedient and kind.

Except in this comic he uses a bad word and indirectly insults Elan and Julian. Which proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that he's evil.

Don't worry about it fangthane, I think by now we all expect a certain amount of snarkiness from any of Ampersand's posts.

Does that make me infamous? Or just annoying?

I'm more curious about what any of that has to do with the lack of fan complaints about Belkar's illusion eating or not, honestly...

It wasn't specifically about eating per say, just that it had been observed that the illusion had a few cracks in it the guards might have noticed.

[Amon Star]

I forgot why Roy wanted to see Shojo, is it about the teleportation to the next gate? So is Wizard Guy alive again?

Yes it is. And the Wizard Guy should be alive again, according to Shojo here;

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0379.html

[fangthane]

You're right, I forgot that they hadn't left town yet. I guess I enjoyed the last time Lord Shojo got onto them about getting his wizard killed on a subquest so much, that I was hoping he would get a chance to do it again.

Hehe no argument on that score... I think "Teleport!" (coupled with the visual of throwing the wizard's skeleton) has to be just about my favourite one-word quote in the comic thus far. It most certainly deserves its own T-shirt, and a good deal of the humour is due to the build-up from Shojo.

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He might get pretty cheesed though, when he's just seen the Order off to Girard's Gate and Miko staggers in, exhausted. Could be anything from grim resolve to belief that he's been had by a team of hucksters and their leader's deceased father.

[krossbow]

I'd actually love to see shojo and Xycon converse; he seems like the only one witty and in control enough to hold his own in a battle of wits.

Xycon: Geez! Would you shut up about your cat already! God, you are teh stupidest city leader I have ever seen!

shinjo: Oh sorry; I was just trying to stall long enough for the paladin guard to run up the stairs and get about 10 feet behind you.

Xycon: WHAT?! *turns* There's no one here you idiot!

Shinjo: Yoink! *flees other direction*

[skinkatlarge]

Hehe no argument on that score... I think "Teleport!" (coupled with the visual of throwing the wizard's skeleton) has to be just about my favourite one-word quote in the comic thus far. It most certainly deserves its own T-shirt, and a good deal of the humour is due to the build-up from Shojo.

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He might get pretty cheesed though, when he's just seen the Order off to Girard's Gate and Miko staggers in, exhausted. Could be anything from grim resolve to belief that he's been had by a team of hucksters and their leader's deceased father.

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Well, Roy's dad originally came to Shojo when Shojo's clerics were "attempting to summon a celestial to dispense advice", and it'd presumably be hard for an evil ghost to get to where Tony was, to replace him, without some god stepping in. So Shojo probably won't just take Miko's skewed-by-obsession word for it.

[nizwiz]

Great comic. I absolutely loved Hinjo's "Uh, right" together with his facial expression. And, of course, fake Belkar's (not so) explicit language and gestures.

He he, "crisis averted". I wonder what level of LERTCON this case is on Shojo's scale.

[Jewel Thief]

Yay! Maybe we teleport to Dwarf's gate next comic, missing Xykon's invading army by mere seconds!

[Blaznak]

Meh - Cute, but seems "bridge-y". The good news about these bridge pieces is you know he's building to something on the other side of the river...

Later!

[Amon Star]

Yay! Maybe we teleport to Dwarf's gate next comic, missing Xykon's invading army by mere seconds!

They're not planning on heading to Kraagor's Gate next. They're planning to go to Gerard's Gate on the Western Continent. The same continent that 's father is being held.

"What are these Gates people keep talking about?"

[pendell]

Hey, after so much not-plot moving, I'll take what I can get.

<snarkiness>So why isn't this thread filled with calls for Hinjo to lose his palidinhood?</snarkiness>

Because
he is not a paladin .

He has no paladinhood to lose. Never has, never will. Read closely, and you'll see he's not even of a lawful alignment.

Rest of the thread ... *wakes up, looks around* Miko shown up yet? Xykon shown up yet? No? *Goes back to sleep*

Respectfully,

Brian P.

[Amon Star]

Because
he is not a paladin .

He has no paladinhood to lose. Never has, never will. Read closely, and you'll see he's not even of a lawful alignment.

Rest of the thread ... *wakes up, looks around* Miko shown up yet? Xykon shown up yet? No? *Goes back to sleep*

Respectfully,

Brian P.

We are talking about Hinjo, the Paladin with the Scruffy goatee, not Shojo, the old dude with the cat.

[teratorn]

We are talking about Hinjo, the Paladin with the Scruffy goatee, not Shojo, the old dude with the cat.

I wonder why so many readers mess up their names. I've seen quite often Shojo referred to as Shinjo. Hinjo is acknowledged as a paladin in #265.
"And that's the story of how I become a paladin."
The only thing we know is that it involved "Rectum". We never saw him do paladinish thingies and I would like to see what he would do if he saw Belkar free. Would he go all Miko-ish on the OOTS?

[pendell]

*Hides face in embarrassment*

Right, right, I do get those two mixed up ...

Nevermind.

Respectfully,

Brian P.

[Jewel Thief]

He wouldn't follow Miko's path. He represents a different paladin archetype. He'd probably get very confused, and Belkar would somehow cover it up.

[skreweded]

Sweet! BTW, I don't really get the last joke (Roy on spiritual connection, or something? Eh??)

"we are spiritually close, in that we both have to deal with nitwits"
(Elan and Shinjo)

[fwiffo]

"we are spiritually close, in that we both have to deal with nitwits"
(Elan and Shinjo)

Is Shinjo the bastard child of Shojo and Hinjo?

[MReav]

Is Shinjo the bastard child of Shojo and Hinjo?

How is that even possible?

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With a Polymorph Any Object and a lot of beer.

[fwiffo]

How is that even possible?

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With a Polymorph Any Object and a lot of beer.

And also...

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a helpful loan from Elan's stash of magical do-dads

[5tephen]

How is that even possible?

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With a Polymorph Any Object and a lot of beer.

And don't tell me that if we could all just wander into D&Dlan, that experiment wouldn't be the MOST common way to spend a bored evening at home with no television.

Because it would.

[Gandal]

Many people here have the worst. Spelling. Ever.

[Lycar]

Many people here have the worst. Spelling. Ever.

Uhm. How is that actually possible ? If someone has the WSE (C), then nobody else can have it, or his (or her) spelling would, by definition, not be the WSE (C). So it is not possible for n > 1 people to have the WSE (C).

Lycar

PS: Also i already told you a billion-zillion times not to always exaggerate so much !