Expanding the Duskblade Spell List

[Fax Celestis]

If you could add to the Duskblade spell list as you chose, what would you add?

I personally don't see expanding the Duskblade spell list as that unbalancing an issue, because (when it comes down to it), the Duskblade only gets 21 spells (plus cantrips) over the course of his 20 level career.

[Ramza00]

Wraithstrike
Shivering Touch and the Lesser Version

You did ask after all

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I would make a Duskblade variant that focuses on Archery.

[Bears With Lasers]

Colorful ribbons, to brighten it up.

[Fear_Zod]

False life, and harm

[Fax Celestis]

Cloud of Knives would be my personal choice.

[Fax Celestis]

Actually, would expanding the Duskblade's spell list to "All Sor/Wiz" be too big a deal? I mean, he'd only get 5th and below.

[Misat]

Actually, would expanding the Duskblade's spell list to "All Sor/Wiz" be too big a deal? I mean, he'd only get 5th and below.

Yes. It would be completely harsh depending on the level. I mean it's not like it would DESTROY the game, but man would it make an already well of class much much much better. I think adding some spells, I really do like cloud of knives, but I think it's too much damage potential for a class that already does enough.

[Roland St. Jude]

Fax, you're creeping me out. I was *this* close to starting a thread with this exact same question last night. But I decided to give it some thought and put together a suggested list first. Of course, now I can just read this and steal everyone else's suggestions, mu-ha-ha-ha!

(Obviously, I think the list could be expanded some what without changing the balance too terribly much. I wouldn't open it to all wiz/sorc spells, but a few from each source of the appropriate flavor would actually be nice, I think.)

[Fax Celestis]

I'm actually going through the SC and my other books and listing off spells I'd like added, assigning them a Duskblade level, and going from there. I'll post the list when I've completed it. Why don't you do the same, and we can compare notes?

[Fax Celestis]

Here's my proposed expansions:

From the Spell Compendium, adjusted to what I think would be fair Duskblade level:
L0
Caltrops
Electric Jolt
Know Greatest Enemy
Launch Item
Stick

L1
Corrosive Grasp
Critical Strike
Deafening Clang
Fist of Stone
Ie Dagger
Lightfoot
Nerveskitter
Nightshield
Persistent Blade
Phantom Threat
Rhino's Rush
Snowshoes

L2
Battering Ram
Bladeweave
Body of the Sun
Bristle
Combust
Daggerspell Stance
Delusions of Grandeur
Fireburst
Flame Dagger
Infernal Wound
Ironthunder Horn
Mountain Stance
Rainbow Beam
Scorch
Shadow Spray
Weapon Shift
Wracking Touch

L3
Belker Claws
Body Blades
Clarity of Mind
Diamondsteel
Find the Gap
Knight's Move
Know Opponent
Moon Blade
Ring of Blades
Spectral Weapon
Spider Poison
Steeldance
Sppress Breath Weapon
Unluck
Whirling Blade

L4
Bands of Steel
Blindsight
Displacer Form
Flame Whips
Forcewave
Frost Breath
Lion's Charge
Mind Poison
Vulnerability

L5
Acid Sheath
Aura of Evasion
Charge of the Triceratops
Emerald Flame Fist
Fireburst, Greater
Girallon's Blessing
Ray Deflection
Translocation Trick

From Magic of Incarnum:
L2
Divest Essentia

L4
Rend Essentia
Soulbleed

L5
Valiant Spirit

From Complete Scoundrel:
L1
Armor Lock

L2
Enlarge Weapon

L4
Spell Theft

From the PHB-II:
L2
Cloud of Knives

[TheThan]

Off the top of my head I’ll go with enlarge person, magic missile, rage, and fireball.

I can probably come up with some more.

[Roland St. Jude]

First, I would give them access to every 0-level spell. I know they get some as spell-like abilities from Arcane Attunement, but I think they might as well have access to all of them on the spell list (and not the mere four listed).

(I don't have my SC right now, but here's what I've culled from other sources.)

My premise is that I'm just extending the list to where it should be had the PHBII authors not been constrained to PHB & PHBII. Thus, I assume they included all the PHB & PHBII spells they desired, so while I might want to add more, it's not really in keeping with their intent. (I do think there are more PHB spells that would be fun on their list, perhaps even in keeping with the duskblade flavor, but I'm reluctant to go there.)

BoED
1
Lantern Light
Eyes of the Avoral
2
None
3
Elation
Warcry
4
Radiant Fog
Radiant Shield
5
Vanishing Weapon
Emerald Burst
Touch of Adamantine

BoVD
0
Unnerving Gaze
No Light
Slash Tongue

1
Death Grimace
Abberate
Bestow Wounds
Tongue Tendrils
2
Unheavened
Addiction
Masochism
Sadism
Sap Strength
Darkbolt
Shriveling
3
Devil’s Eye
Evil Eye
Tongue Serpent
Vile Lance
4
Abyssal Might
Hell’s Power
Wrack
5
Resonating Resistance

Libris Mortis
1
Ectoplasmic Armor
Necrotic Awareness
2
Blade of Pain and Fear
Ghost Touch Armor
Necrotic Cyst
Spawn Screen
3
Ectoplasmic Feedback
Necrotic Bloat
4
None
5
Kiss of the Vampire
Necrotic Burst
Night’s Caress
Other:
Spectral Touch (6) as (4)
Avasculate (7) as (5)
Energy Ebb (7) as (5)