A light on our favorite Wizzard, Rincewind

[Goblin Music]

this tread is about the Mage Rincewind and his Wizzardly abilities
Mainly what class.

[Cult_of_the_Raven]

shouldn't this be in Gaming?

[Eldpollard]

shouldn't this be in Gaming?

That or media discussion.

[Cult_of_the_Raven]

well, i think it was meant to take the rincewind's class levels debate off the things you shouldn't do while gaming thread.

[Goblin Music]

this is just so we don't clutter up Things i shouldn't do while gaming thread

[Green Bean]

this tread is about the Mage Rincewind and his Wizzardly abilities

What wizardly abilities?

[Amiria]

Maybe his pointy wizzzard hat ? Definitely a class feature.

[Cult_of_the_Raven]

that was my point exactly.

[Leather_Book_Wizard]

Wizard 1. I believe that should cover it all.

[Scorpina]

Rincewind has better saves than a Wizard 1, and less spells...

[Wizzardman]

Wizard maybe 3 or 4, Rogue several levels, maybe a few levels from the 'lucky' prestige class in Complete Scoundrel, and high int.

Why can't he cast spells? Either the mage slayer feat, which would provide him approximately 0 caster levels, or because he never learned any [as he never carries his spellbook, and didn't pay much attention in UU]. Or we could just blame it on the fact that he cast an epic level spell in The Light Fantastic which happened to permanently remove his spellcasting powers as a drawback.

[Assassinfox]

He probably has some special template on him like "Chosen of the Lady" or something that gives him ridiculous saves and an even more ridiculous LA.

[Aidan305]

There are stats for him in GURPS.

I'd say probably a couple of levels of wizzard, a couple of scout, and various other classes that get you boosts to speed.

[Closet_Skeleton]

Survivor from Savage Species. His life counted as the whole month training.

[Madmal]

Or we could just blame it on the fact that he cast an epic level spell in The Light Fantastic which happened to permanently remove his spellcasting powers as a drawback.

err...i believe he already couldn't cast any spells due to that specific spell on his head...

[The Demented One]

err...i believe he already couldn't cast any spells due to that specific spell on his head...

Even after he got rid of it, he was still useless at magic.

[XenoGeno]

It seems to me that he'd be some sort of Prestige Class that has Expeditious Retreat usable at will as a spell-like ability. He'd definitely have monstrously high mental and Dex ability scores, knows every language you can learn, and has high Bluff and Diplomacy.

[JellyPooga]

Maybe a couple levels of Monk for higher saves and movement bonus'??

[Scorpina]

...but that would require a Lawful alignment, which seems a bit off.

[Cult_of_the_Raven]

yeah, no monk levels. what about that feat that lets you run extra fast?

[goat]

Spellcasting on the disk seems to be a more charismatic type affair than an intelligent one. Lots of the Wizards encountered haven't been all that smart. Maybe he's a wizard variant using charismatic casting, but he lacks the charisma to use it.

[Sage in the Playground]

He's a level 0 wizzard.

[Cyrano]

Definition of Wizzard:
No class skills
No race skills
No skills
Gets picked on
No spells
500 movement speed

[Sage in the Playground]

Definition of Wizzard:
No class skills
No race skills
No skills
Gets picked on
No spells
500 movement speed

You forgot "Obscenelt Lucky" and "Extremely Pessimistic"

[Green Bean]

Nah, Rincewind is a low level wizard, who has 10 INT, and a few levels in a class that grants movement speed. And I wouldn't really give him any ranks in diplomacy; when was the last time he persuaded someone to not try and kill him?

[Cyrano]

Well Obscenely Lucky (at least, I THOUGHT) was a Race special (Incompetant Ankh-Morporkian), and Extremely Pessimistic is a feat, with a prerequisite of Rincewind.

[Leather_Book_Wizard]

Nah, Rincewind is a low level wizard, who has 10 INT, and a few levels in a class that grants movement speed. And I wouldn't really give him any ranks in diplomacy; when was the last time he persuaded someone to not try and kill him?

He can't just have 10 INT. He knows every language possible.

[Scorpina]

...maybe he just has lots and lots of ranks in Speak Language? After all, it's not as though she's put a lot of ranks into anything else.

[Cult_of_the_Raven]

yes, the Speak Language Skill is absolutely correct!! Especially since he learned to speak them later in life rather than as he grew up.

[XenoGeno]

He's definitely intelligent, as are all the Wizards on the disc. They just have crappy Wis. He's Chaotic, with high Int and Wis and above average Cha.