Dragonlance Cancelled

[Tharr]

The news is at www.dragonlance.com for the new info.

[squishycube]

Boop, to speak with Erfworld...

[Bears With Lasers]

Meh. Dragonlance was, well, lame.

[Zincorium]

Honestly, the only Dragonlance product I have actually had some enjoyment with after being conned into playing it was the 5th age card-based game, and only through a combination of unique mechanics and being 13 years old.

[Arlanthe]

Still, this is sad. The death of an era. Until, you know, they re-release everything in 2012.

[Khoran]

The Dragonlance RPG License has been a labor of love for me and my staff throughout the term of our agreement with Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro. Our goal in creating Dragonlance game product has always been to give the long-time fan quality material that supports our vision for Dragonlance while attracting a new audience to this epic world. Our agreement has come to term and is not being renewed. We will be releasing new Dragonlance RPG product through the end of this year and then will step back from our association with Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro.
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From what was posted in this artical, it sounds as if Soverign Press is allowing the licence to expire, and that it's not a discision on the part of the WoTC. I have a feeling that a lot of the people saying it was WoTC is a kneejerk reaction (Combined with some bitterness over the Dragon and Dungeon fiasco a few days ago.) that they rule out the consideration that it's Soverign's doing, and that it must be the Evil Wizard and their lust for money.

[Lord Lorac Silvanos]

Considering recent events and the fact that this is not the first D&D license not to be renewed, I find it unlikely that this is not a result of WotC's business strategy.

But who knows, maybe we will see DL products again in some years.
This is not the first time DL gets discontinued.

[Overlard]

One of the players in my group bought/found all the Dragonlance stuff he could get his hands on before he joined us. He thought it was the default setting for D&D, and has been trying to get someone to run a campaign there for almost a year. Poor guy's outta luck.

[TerraNova]

Considering recent events and the fact that this is not the first D&D license not to be renewed, I find it unlikely that this is not a result of WotC's business strategy.

But who knows, maybe we will see DL products again in some years.
This is not the first time DL get discontinued.

I for one definitly believe we will - as part of a non-OGL 4th edition, which seems more likely by the day.

Well, so much for that money-sink. I'll stick to my guns, and continue playing 3.5 for as long as i have players - i invested way too much money into it to switch.

[Zincorium]

Well, there are a few good things about a game becoming unsupported:

No power creep.

A lot less money spent on new, shiny, system specific fluff books

Everyone has plenty of time to learn the current rule set.

Really, the only disadvantages are that it will never get officially published new material (the amount of fan made stuff will always be larger than the amount you need) and that replacing old, worn books will get difficult because they'll no longer be printed.

Heck, people still play 2nd ed, old WoD, Alternity, and a bunch of other 'dead' games, without a real problem.

[Khoran]

Considering recent events and the fact that this is not the first D&D license not to be renewed, I find it unlikely that this is not a result of WotC's business strategy.

Can you point me in the direction of the other Licenses not being renewed aside from Dragon and Dungeon, please.

[Lord Lorac Silvanos]

Arthaus' license to Ravenloft - 2005-2006.
Codemonkey Publishing's license to E-tools and PC-Gen - 2006.

[KIDS]

Awwww, that sucks. As if a significant difference ever existed or what, there was no reason to shut this down!

[Khoran]

Arthaus' license to Ravenloft - 2005-2006.
Codemonkey Publishing's license to E-tools and PC-Gen - 2006.

I see, so it seems they are letting all licences expire. Though, that does bring up an interesting question of why they are letting that happen.

[Inyssius Tor]

Yeah. Are they just "going into hibernation," or are they about to release one of the other Settings they have up their sleeves?

I never really liked Dragonlance, but I too am slightly alarmed by the trend.

[Epiphanis]

WotC might want to reduce/weaken the number of settings competing with Eberron and Forgotten Realms, but I doubt it. I think they've just valued the property higher than anyone wants to pay for it anymore. Maybe in a few years they will push Dragonlance novels again and hope to find a licenser who can meet their price then.

[Meat Shield]

Yeah. Are they just "going into hibernation," or are they about to release one of the other Settings they have up their sleeves?

I think you may be on to something here - we may see another setting in time for Christmas maybe?

[clarkvalentine]

From what was posted in this artical, it sounds as if Soverign Press is allowing the licence to expire, and that it's not a discision on the part of the WoTC.

No, it was almost certainly WoTC. It's obvious if you look at surrounding events. For reasons stated earlier in the thread, it's not a big surprise, though.


Edit: By the way, all the books scheduled for release this year will still be released. They didn't truly cancel it, they just didn't renew the license for 2008.

- Clark

[clarkvalentine]

Poor guy's outta luck.

Send him this way, I was just talking yesterday about starting up a new campaign. My books aren't evaporating.

[clarkvalentine]

But who knows, maybe we will see DL products again in some years.
This is not the first time DL gets discontinued.

I think that's a very strong probability. They tend to let DL go fallow for a years every once in a while. It'll be back, maybe coinciding with Edition 4.5 like it did with 3.5.

[Indon]

Yeah. Are they just "going into hibernation," or are they about to release one of the other Settings they have up their sleeves?

I never really liked Dragonlance, but I too am slightly alarmed by the trend.

I suspect they're trying to set up some kind of cycle, in which during any given year they've got a couple different settings being active. That way, they can keep gamers running around for the newest setting suppliments all the time.

[EvilElitest]

so who is very upset?
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[Wagadodo]

I hate to see one of my favorite settings just disappear like this. I have supported Sovereign Press's releases from the begining and have found they have some of the best fluff, and interesting mechanical stuff out there. I for one will be sad to see Dragonlance product leave their hands.

Lets just hope their Serenity, Battlestar Galatica, and other rpg products are just as good.

[Marcotic]

Meh. Dragonlance was, well, lame.

Probably the only thing that I agree with you on. Any champain with the silvenesti, I mean seriously supporting racism oh im' sorry Zenophobia, and what's with the knights of salancia?(if i got that right) if I remember, there pretty much palidin/fighters and what would you know? only humans can do that. In Dragonlances defence, i had a bit of a lame DM, or maybe he was overloaded.

[Shhalahr Windrider]

WotC might want to reduce/weaken the number of settings competing with Eberron and Forgotten Realms, but I doubt it.

Or, you know, they just want to take control of the official settings again. Did ya notice how after the Ravenloft liscense expired, an official WotC Ravonloft product came out?

[themightybiggun]

I'm bummed, DL was my favorite setting.

A lot of people got turned off of it during the 5th age crisis, but in the past 4-5 years its had a resurgence, I'm rather sad.

I liked it out from under the WotC license, MWP/SP was definitely run by fans, and they kept it very true to the way the fans loved it.

If WotC starts publishing stuff ( i don't think they will,) I probably won't buy any.

[Assassinfox]

Or, you know, they just want to take control of the official settings again. Did ya notice how after the Ravenloft liscense expired, an official WotC Ravonloft product came out?

A crappy remake of the original adventure that completely ignores the actual Ravenloft setting.

[JadedDM]

Probably the only thing that I agree with you on. Any champain with the silvenesti, I mean seriously supporting racism oh im' sorry Zenophobia, and what's with the knights of salancia?(if i got that right) if I remember, there pretty much palidin/fighters and what would you know? only humans can do that. In Dragonlances defence, i had a bit of a lame DM, or maybe he was overloaded.

They are the Knights of Solamnia. I can't really address the rest of your post, as it is indecipherable to me.

Dragonlance was my favorite campaign setting. I can't believe they're doing this. First Paizo, and now this? Something is in the works here, and I have a bad feeling about it. WotC has been suspiciously tight-lipped about the whole thing, too. I guess we'll see what happens whenever they make their next move.

Est Sularus Oth Mithas

[Assassinfox]

I'd have to agree with Marcotic. Dragonlance had some seriously screwed up morals.

[Emperor Tippy]

I for one definitly believe we will - as part of a non-OGL 4th edition, which seems more likely by the day.

Well, so much for that money-sink. I'll stick to my guns, and continue playing 3.5 for as long as i have players - i invested way too much money into it to switch.

Invest money in D&D books? D&D isn't good enough to pay money for.

Unlike SR 4 and M&M 2.