d1=Möbius strip or Klein bottle?

[Maulrus]

It seems to me that, for all intents and purposes, a paper Möbius strip could be an effective d1.

Just throwing that out there.

[Solo]

I personally use a one sided coin, made out of magnetic monopoles.

[ocato]

I already invented a d1. I shake my fist, then I mime a dice roll. Then I punch you in the head. While you are surprised, I shout out 'I got a 1!' So far, so good.

[Fax Celestis]

Yes, but why would you roll it when you already know what the outcome will be...?

[F.L.]

Don't get me started on the d4 I had that was a quantum superposition of 2 d4's. You'd roll it, and the number you'd get would change if you looked at it. Also dealing out 1+3root2 damage was always a headache.

Or you could get a d0, and roll d0+1.

[Maulrus]

Yes, but why would you roll it when you already know what the outcome will be...?

Because they don't know it.

Oh, and the d0+1 idea is an interesting prospect I had not considered.

[my_evil_twin]

I just roll a d4 and reroll if the result is greater than 1

[Parasocrates]

Roll a ping-pong ball with a "1" painted on it.

[F.L.]

Though now I'm curious what the set of d-n dice are. E.g. the d-4. Or, even better, irrational dice, like the d i*pi.

[ocato]

The d4 looks like a pyramid. The numbers are painted on each corner, the corner pointing up is the number.

[F.L.]

I meant a d minus 4.

vvvvvv
Solves that simple problem, but still doesn't answer what a d(euler's number) does. Or, more horribly, a d(Graham's number).

[ocato]

My apologies.

Take what I said, and etch a negative symbol next to all of the numbers. Problem solved.

[NEO|Phyte]

Yes, but why would you roll it when you already know what the outcome will be...?

Simple.

There is a stance that lets you reroll and add to your damage dealt when you roll max damage. If its actually 1d1 instead of just 1 damage on small weapons, you've got an infinite loop.

[Nahal]

A d(-4) would likely require at least 4 spatial dimensions, the plausibility of which depends largely on which school of theoretical physics you think is the least loony.

A d1 would just be a sphere IMHO since
a) We take the result of a die roll to be determined by which face upon which said die comes to rest.
b) For a d1 to exist, it would have to only have 1 face upon which to rest
c) A sphere is the only object with a single face I can think of whose existence will not cause you to start gibbering incoherently about Blind Azatoth or begging Yog Sothoth to save you.
So you roll the sphere, it comes to rest, and voila! Your only possible result is result 1. Thus, a D1. Now I have to go attend a catgirl funeral.

Also, will someone please explain a Klein bottle to me? I've heard of it but sadly I failed my Knowledge(bizarre, obscure and possibly migraine-inducing trivia) check to recall specifics.

[Maulrus]

Also, will someone please explain a Klein bottle to me? I've heard of it but sadly I failed my Knowledge(bizarre, obscure and possibly migraine-inducing trivia) check to recall specifics.

From what I gleaned from Wikipedia, it's like two Möbius strips put together.

Go here: www.kleinbottle.com/whats_a_klein_bottle.htm

[F.L.]

Klein Bottle = 1 sided bottle. The Bottle nozzle loops back through the bottle and comes out on the bottom. They can actually be made.

Yarr, ninja's got me.

[Lemur]

Halfling monks shall rejoice, for their time has come!

Whitespace: It's never time for halfling monks *smacks Lemur with the probability of a one-sided die*

[Mad Wizard]

While we're at it, let's do imaginary dice. What's a dί look like?

[TheOOB]

Klein Bottle = 1 sided bottle. The Bottle nozzle loops back through the bottle and comes out on the bottom. They can actually be made.

Yarr, ninja's got me.

Acually, True Klein bottles are 4 dimensional objects and cannot exist in our 3 dimensional universe, all we can make is something the is a reasonable approximation.

It's kinda like how you can draw a picture of a cube on a piece of paper. You can't acually draw a 3D object on a plane, but you can make something that looks 3D.

[AtomicKitKat]

{Leeloo}Dot.{/Leeloo}

[Sergeantbrother]

Roll a ping-pong ball with a "1" painted on it.

What if you had a weight inside of the ping-pong opposite the "1" so that when ever you rolled it the "1" was facing up?

[Leon]

The d4 looks like a pyramid. The numbers are painted on each corner, the corner pointing up is the number.

Not always, mine have the number in the center of the flat

[SpiderBrigade]

Not always, mine have the number in the center of the flat

I've seen those too. Terrible! You have to either flip the thing over to read it, or be really quick at process-of-elimination.

[BCOVertigo]

What if you had a weight inside of the ping-pong opposite the "1" so that when ever you rolled it the "1" was facing up?

Then you get kicked out of the group for using weighted dice.

[TheOOB]

Some also have them on the bottom instead of the top

[LotharBot]

While we're at it, let's do imaginary dice. What's a dί look like?

Ping-pong ball again. INstead of painting a 1, paint an i. Done.

And you can weight dice as appropriate to select from non-uniform distributions.

[Pronounceable]

A din is simply a dn with ghost touch enchantment.
(an imaginary cookie for anyone who can get the entirety of the joke)

A drational isn't that hard: an ordinary dn as the nominator, and a din as the denominator.

It's the dirrational that gives me trouble...

[belboz]

Klein Bottle = 1 sided bottle. The Bottle nozzle loops back through the bottle and comes out on the bottom. They can actually be made.

Kinda. A real Klein bottle doesn't intersect itself. But you need an extra dimension to do that.

[AngelSword]

While we're at it, let's do imaginary dice. What's a dί look like?

I was going to go for a joke, but I decided against it. It seemed in bad taste.

[Bender]

A din is simply a dn with ghost touch enchantment.
(an imaginary cookie for anyone who can get the entirety of the joke)

yay, those are my favourite

about the de: just throw a d2, followed by a d7/10, proceed with a d1/100, and go on with a d8, d2, d8, d1, d8, d9, d0, d4... (yes, I put too many ranks in knowledge(irrational numbers), don't get me going on pi) divided by the appropriate power of 10 until you decide your accuracy is sufficient and you can neglect the difference. If you put it in binary, you only need to flip a coin...

I have a d1, but I never throw it, I predict the result telepatically

for a d2, my favourite is Schrödinger's cat.