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    Default [3.PF] Feat to become large?

    I want to make a feat for my campaign setting for Orcs, Hobgoblins, and Bugbears that allows them to be especially large for their race, is the following balanced?:

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    Whether you have some ogre in your blood or are just blessed by the Blood Lord, you are exceptionally tall for you race. However, you are a bit clumsy for your size, and your heart has difficulty keeping up with your huge proportions.
    Prerequisite: Must be an Orc, Hobgoblin, or Bugbear. This feat can ONLY be taken at character creation.
    Benefit: You are size Large instead of Medium. You stand between 8 to 9 feet tall (and most likely weigh between 400 and 500 lbs). This does NOT give you a bonus to Strength, and you take a -2 penalty to your Dexterity and Constitution scores.
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    Default Re: [3.PF] Feat to become large?

    Since this comes with a penalty, it should be considered a trait, not a feat. I certainly wouldn't take it with it costing a feat. I think it's balanced to break even.
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    Default Re: [3.PF] Feat to become large?

    Let's look at the PF Race Builder...

    Being large size instead of medium size costs 7 RP. It also raises STR by +2 and decreases DEX by -2.

    A flexible bonus feat at 1st level costs 4 RP, so sacrificing the flexible starting feat at level 1 should be worth 4 RP.

    This leaves 3 RP unaccounted for. A flat +2 to an ability score costs 4 RP. I'm not sure if this should be directly translated to "a -2 on an ability score gives you 4 RP", but a 3:8 rate seems to harsh. I think you should either remove the -2 to CON or allow the +2 to STR (possibly leaving the choice to the player).



    Or steal mutations from d20 Modern.

    http://www.d20resources.com/future.d20.srd/mutations/

    This could get you Enlarged Form (count as large size whenever it is advantageous with none of the penalties) for Ability Decay (Dexterity -2) and either Lethargy (-2 Reflex Saves) or Frailty (-2 Fortitude Saves, I think this represents the weak-heart-issue better than a penalty to CON since it leaves the hit points intact and lowers endurance)*.


    *A -1 or -2 penalty to a Save or Initiative could also be a less severe alternative to the stat decrease in your original draft.

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    Default Re: [3.PF] Feat to become large?

    Ok, thanks for the input!
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