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2017-02-03, 12:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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What.
That may have been implied, but I don't think it was explicity stated. She was writing code, it was just code that didn't do anything, if she hadn't been writing code she wouldn't have been doing anything, as it was she was doing something, it was just that what she did didn't do anything. I suspect it's a programming joke, not a depiction of depression.
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2017-02-03, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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It was a joke, you may have heard of them.
It's quite obvious that it's both.
Politics is small beer, compared to, say, cancer.
Just in case you missed it, the comic's title is "Sad." I think it's intended to be taken in a "what it says on the tin" sort of way.The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.
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2017-02-03, 01:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-02-03, 01:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-02-03, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Grey_Wolf_c; 2017-02-03 at 01:46 PM.
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2017-02-03, 02:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-02-03, 02:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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From:
https://www.amazon.com/Daily-Floggin.../dp/B00A9VLX1K
There are dozens of others. I think I may have first come across it in Milligan's military memoirs, but there seem to be suggestions on the web today that it's a lot older than that.
The whole point is that it's completely absurd and nonsensical.The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.
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2017-02-03, 02:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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-Title is "Sad"
-Responds to "How are you doing" with "Hah."
-Using video games to hide from the real world.
-Is ranting in programming comments.
-Inability to "deal with this" expressed through her code.
-(Speculative) Lack of effects related to lack of affect.
I'm not sure what you need to be convinced. 200-foot-tall flaming letters or something?
If nothing else, then, one should respect the impact politics can have on people with cancer and other life-threatening illnesses. We don't avoid discussing the topic 'round here because of its insignificance.Last edited by Lethologica; 2017-02-03 at 02:43 PM.
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2017-02-03, 02:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm inclined to give halfeye some leeway here. After all, I had just told him rather tactlessly that he misunderstood both the comic and the wikipedia article that he linked to. On top of that, he might prefer a lighthearted humorous comic rather than one with sadness injected into it. I can also read what he said as objecting (in a humorously exaggerated way) to the injection of sadness into the comic, rather than attacking the character per se. The subject of his sentence was "That" not "She." Furthermore, he doesn't read the comic the same way as everyone else, so he wouldn't empathize with her as a depressed person.
I would not belittle the importance of politics as halfeye did, though. Political leaders can make very important decisions, including life or death ones. For some people it can be more frustrating than something like cancer: after all, you can't blame a cancer for acting cancerous, but you can blame a politician or a voter for doing whatever they did. The reason I said that is to lead into this suggestion: It may be that people may be empathizing with the depressed character to varying degrees based in part on politics. I suggest caution, therefore.
Lethologica ninja'd my second paragraph. It takes me too long to write such things! I hadn't even seen the couple above his.Last edited by eschmenk; 2017-02-03 at 03:02 PM.
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2017-02-03, 03:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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1) There is no rule that says you can only be upset about one thing at a time
2) They may not be separate concerns anymore
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2017-02-03, 03:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Missed sad, not convinced "Hah." can be taken as proof of clinical depression.
-Using video games to hide from the real world.
-Is ranting in programming comments.
-Inability to "deal with this" expressed through her code.
-(Speculative) Lack of effects related to lack of affect.
I'm not sure what you need to be convinced. 200-foot-tall flaming letters or something?
If nothing else, then, one should respect the impact politics can have on people with cancer and other life-threatening illnesses. We don't avoid discussing the topic 'round here because of its insignificance.
That's true, I wasn't saying it wasn't, I was merely saying the one you are or were personally directly involved with was probably more intense.Last edited by halfeye; 2017-02-03 at 03:54 PM.
The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.
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2017-02-03, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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This is a misuse of point-by-point argument. The points on my list are not meant to individually prove that we're talking about depression, such that pointing out that each individual point does not prove depression is a refutation of the list. The points add up to depression. (On the other hand, your objections are individual and distinct replies to my points, not interdependent elements of an argument, so I will go ahead and address them point by point.)
The problem isn't the "video games" part, it's the "hiding from the real world" part, which Ponytail confirms with "Fact check: mostly false."
Saying it's a programming joke is not an argument that it's not also portraying depression. The comic is an inquiry into Ponytail's emotional state (as evidenced by Cueball inquiring about Ponytail's emotional state). Since Ponytail is a programmer, programming jokes are involved, but that doesn't erase the emotional inquiry aspect of the comic.
It has nothing to do with extroversion or introversion. Please do some reading on flat affect and anhedonia.
It's not a competition. For example, let's say you've dealt with a loved one having cancer before and now you're facing a political situation impacting access to care for people with cancer. Rather than saying "This political situation isn't as bad as when my loved one had cancer so I'm not all that impacted by this," you're likely to have strong emotions about the political situation in part because of your previous experience with a loved one having cancer.Last edited by Lethologica; 2017-02-03 at 04:28 PM.
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2017-02-03, 05:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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The new comic has been up for a few hours now. It seems very minimal to me.
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2017-02-03, 09:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-02-03, 10:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-02-04, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Er... yes! Just as I planned, an elaborate meta commentary on...
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2017-02-04, 10:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-02-04, 11:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-02-08, 05:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Today's XKCD hits a bit close to home:
https://xkcd.com/1796/
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2017-02-12, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
- Douglas Adams
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2017-02-12, 02:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Huh, again. Reporters almost seem incapable of talking about a large urban fire without specifying the number of alarms. Saying the number of alarms doesn't really communicate much information to anyone outside the fire department, but "3-alarm fire" sounds more interesting than "fire," I guess. I think rural fire departments often don't classify fires that way, though. I think for them its a question of "Can we handle this ourselves?" and if not, how much more help do they need? In any case, IIRC the newspaper where I grew up would list which fire departments responded, not the number of alarms, for rural fires. Even so, major urban fires will sometimes get national coverage so the number of alarms winds up on national news sometimes. I guess in addition to whether someone is in a rural or urban area, the fact that people are paying less attention to traditional news media nowadays probably affects the dissemination of the terminology.
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2017-02-13, 10:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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I get the feeling that you are still misinterpereting what “three-alarm fire“ means. It does not mean three fire alarms went off, but rather that dispatches were sent for three times (because the first two were unable to contain the fire, so they called in for more).
If you already understood that, then I apologize for misinterpreting what you wrote.Last edited by 5a Violista; 2017-02-13 at 10:15 AM.
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2017-02-20, 02:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think https://www.xkcd.com/1797/ is the first time I've seen XKCD do an explicit video-game related comic, something that would be at home in Awkward Zombie or such. Does anyone remember a previous one?
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2017-02-20, 02:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-02-20, 08:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Kerbal seems to be really popular, not only for Randal... but I'm sure there have been other occasions, too. Though, I'm not sure what to look for and I don't have time to do a proper search right now.
Today's comic hits kind of close to home. Sadly this mostly occurs when playing games and then I know there are people who suffer from it way worse than me.
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2017-02-21, 06:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, they go back quite a ways and even earlier. And going meta, there is even at least one about comics about video games.
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2017-02-21, 08:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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There's also the one about playing video games on a five year time lag, where the punch line is Portal memes in 2013. Honestly, that seems downright tame now.
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2017-02-22, 07:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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I kind of hate this comic. It's about how you can sing everything with the right syllable pattern to the melody of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Every so often, I'll get hung up on a sentence or phrase that works with it. So since yesterday, I've been singing "Cuddly Slowtime Monkey People" under my breath after reading a sci Fi novel.
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2017-02-22, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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By virtue of living in a media vacuum of my own creation, I don't know the theme song from TMNT.
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2017-02-22, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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