Just a thought.. probably illegal..

[Stormcrow]

If I summon a monster that can swallow whole, it eats my enemy, then I dismiss the summons... what happens to the enemy inside?

[Lavin]

Assuming you're enemy's not dead...I'd have to say that your enemy goes back to wherever you summoned the monster from.

[BRC]

The universe implodes

[martyboy74]

They fall from the position that the specific portion of the creatures digestive system that they were in was at the time, and land prone, possibly dazed or stunned. Nothing of the creature remains (including any digestive juices). Any bits of the character that have managed to come loose inside the digestive system also stay, raining down in the same manner as the character. Any parts that have already been digested do not stay; rather they go with the creature.

[Stormcrow]

Is there anything in the rules to support that? I believe that to be the case when a person is _on_ an enemy but _in_ them? I'm going to have to agree with the first response.

[martyboy74]

Is there anything in the rules to support that? I believe that to be the case when a person is _on_ an enemy but _in_ them? I'm going to have to agree with the first response.

It is matter of this plane until it has been incorporated into the summoned creature (i.e., digested). When the creature is dismissed it goes back, along with any of its body parts that may have been lost.

Also, do you really want to turn Summon Monster into Plane Shift? Because characters will exploit any available mechanic.

[Krrth]

As I recall, anything you give a summoned creature stays behind. Unless the creature can planeshift others, the swallowed individual would not go with them.

[JackMage666]

I would assume it would go back with the summon creature, based on the Special Mount feature of the Paladin. The Special Mount will return to it's homeplane with whatever equipment is given to it by the Paladin, and will return to the material plane with said equipment. That said, when a creature is eaten by a summoned creature, I'd treat him as equipment for the character.

Now, speaking of illegal, would cocaine and heroin fed to a summoned creature go with it back to it's home plane? That's a more practical question, after all.

[martyboy74]

I would assume it would go back with the summon creature, based on the Special Mount feature of the Paladin. The Special Mount will return to it's homeplane with whatever equipment is given to it by the Paladin, and will return to the material plane with said equipment.

That is specified by the Paladin's Special Mount feature, and thus ranges from irrelevant to proving my point (because only exceptions are specifically mentioned).

[Douglas]

The paladin's special mount is a calling effect, not summoning. What happens to things given to the creature is one of the crucial differences between these types of effects, and I would rule that the same difference applies to anything inside the creature that wasn't there when it was initially summoned.

[Aximili]

Is there anything in the rules to support that? I believe that to be the case when a person is _on_ an enemy but _in_ them? I'm going to have to agree with the first response.

Summoned creatures don't take back with them anything you give then here. Other creatures included.

[bugsysservant]

Logically anything consumed would return, since I can't think of a single instance where a part of a creature is planeshifted, but not the whole. If you allow the creature to return without the contents of its stomach, I see no reason why a clever player couldn't planeshift an opponents head, instantly killing them.
Balance wise, it would be best to have the person stay. This is obvious, and I don't feel like reiterating the arguments already posted here.
Another option would be to not allow the summoned creature to return when it has someone inside it. Logically this works out fine, since you could argue that the spell only has enough magic energy to transport the creature, thus the presence of alien matter functions as an anchor. THis could be an interesting turn, since the characters would then have to face off against an angry and uncontrolled monster, after already having been weakened by whatever it swallowed.

Ultimately the choice is yours whether you allow swallowed creatures to be planeshifted. If you have a group of munchkins, then no, the contents of the creature's stomach inexplicably empty, and the creature vanishes as normal. If, however, you have a solid group of roleplayers who you can depend upon to not abuse the rules, then go for it, and maintain the logical consistency.

[TheOOB]

The summoned creature would return to it's home plane, and the creature in it's stomach would be left behind. A summon spell is not a teleportation spell, and it's effects are very temporary (for example, they creature reforms if it dies, and it's spells end immediatly after the summoned creature leaves.), thus it stands to reason that aside from physical side effects of it's actions (such as damage), nothing remains of the summoned creature when it leaves, and that the creature in it's stomach would be, barring damage, be harmlessly left in the material plane(though if the creature was airborn problums could ensue).

If it was a calling spell the siutation would be completely different.

[BardicDuelist]

The summoned creature would return to it's home plane, and the creature in it's stomach would be left behind. A summon spell is not a teleportation spell, and it's effects are very temporary (for example, they creature reforms if it dies, and it's spells end immediatly after the summoned creature leaves.), thus it stands to reason that aside from physical side effects of it's actions (such as damage), nothing remains of the summoned creature when it leaves, and that the creature in it's stomach would be, barring damage, be harmlessly left in the material plane(though if the creature was airborn problums could ensue).

If it was a calling spell the siutation would be completely different.

Are there any summonable creatures that can fly/levitate and have swallow whole?

Also, if they went too far it would end the spell, correct?

[horseboy]

it stands to reason that aside from physical side effects of it's actions (such as damage), nothing remains of the summoned creature when it leaves, and that the creature in it's stomach would be, barring damage, be harmlessly left in the material plane(though if the creature was airborn problums could ensue).

If it was a calling spell the siutation would be completely different.

I can see him being "dropped" into real space. However, I don't think he'd be fine, after all, it would have been (literally) drowning in gastric juices and being crushed by "grappling damage" from internal muscles. If it was long enough, he'd still be dead.

[Jack Mann]

Yes, but that's the case for any swallow whole attack. Depending on how long he's in there, he might make it, just as he might make it long enough to cut his way out.

[Lord Lorac Silvanos]

Also, if they went too far it would end the spell, correct?

The range and line of effect requirement is for when you summon the creature. After it has been summoned it does not matter if line of effect is broken or the range exceeded.

[BardicDuelist]

The range and line of effect requirement is for when you summon the creature. After it has been summoned it does not matter if line of effect is broken or the range exceeded.

Did not know that. I guess you do learn somthing new everyday.

[Skyserpent]

That reminds me of the Schrödinger's rogue.

A Wizard polymorphs into a purple worm, and eats the party rogue. The wizard then dismisses the polymorph spell. Where is the rogue?

[Lord Lorac Silvanos]

That reminds me of the Schrödinger's rogue.

A Wizard polymorphs into a purple worm, and eats the party rogue. The wizard then dismisses the polymorph spell. Where is the rogue?

I know this one.

In the Wizard's thigh. Roll 1d2 to determine if it is the left or the right.

[lord_khaine]

nahh, he is on the ground besides the wizard, the duration of polymorp isnt long enough to digest somebody

[Skyserpent]

I'm personally a fan of the extremely urgent trip to the nearest bathroom.

[ElHugo]

Regarding Schrödingers rogue, I'd say that the wizard explodifies messily... the rogue would be standing in the bloody remains of the wizard, probably bruized and dazed, but otherwise no worse for the wear (although obviously, he'd have taken eating damage from the time spent in the worm-wizards stomach).

As for the OP, I'd also say that the rogue just drops to the floor - the creature goes back to whereever it came from, along with whatever else it had with it, including what already was in its stomach, and leaves behind everything it picked up during the spell, including whatever had gotten in its belly.

The enemy would have taken eating damage from being inside the stomach as long as the spell lasted, and could probably urgently use a bath, but otherwise, the effect would be the same as if he had cut his way out.

[martyboy74]

Are there any summonable creatures that can fly/levitate and have swallow whole?

Also, if they went too far it would end the spell, correct?

They don't need to be able to fly; most stomachs aren't directly on the ground.

For that matter, how many summonable creatures have Swallow Whole?

[Renx]

Schrödinger's rogue: Rogue gets a Fort save or dies. Nothing short of a nine lives effect will help, nothing short of a wish will resurrect. All magical and/or extraplanar items are expurged outside. Spell resistance applies.

If he makes the save (or resists), he is expurged outside, Dazed for 1d6 rounds (no save).

Things like Dire/Huge Sharks can swallow hole. Elementals gan engulf. Command an earth elemental to Engulf, then sink into the stone. Instant crushing death.

[Ralfarius]

The rogue question raises another: if a character is swallowed whole, but is only one size category smaller than that of the swallowing monster's capability, what would an application of 'enlarge person' do?

[Mewtarthio]

The rogue question raises another: if a character is swallowed whole, but is only one size category smaller than that of the swallowing monster's capability, what would an application of 'enlarge person' do?

He'd get a Strength check to break out of his confinement (I suppose you could figure out the break DC of a living creature, but you may just give him an extra Grapple check to get vomited out). Failure means he grows as much as he can and stops unharmed.

[CASTLEMIKE]

If I summon a monster that can swallow whole, it eats my enemy, then I dismiss the summons... what happens to the enemy inside?

Most summonings are in rounds. Unless it is a very extended "Summoning" like several hours to a day your enemy will be left behind when your summoned monsters is dismissed with a good chance of still being alive but worse for the experience if he was simply swallowed whole.

What monster are you considering? Something like the Fiendish Tyrannosaurus?