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Thread: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
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2007-09-05, 02:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
Hi all,
Wonder if anyone knows of a good LA +1 or LA +2 race that gains a bonus to INT and/or CHA.
It also has to be a race that isn't adverse to living in the desert, so no aquatic races or cold dwellers.
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2007-09-05, 03:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
The LA+1 dromite has you covered for a bonus to charisma, and is a typically desert-dwelling creature (I think?).
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2007-09-05, 03:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-09-05, 03:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
If you don't mind going to LA +3, Sweetlings are someone's creation that give +6 INT, +6 CHA, +2 WIS, -4 STR and -4 CON, with a shapechange ability.
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2007-09-05, 03:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
Grey Elves have no LA.
So a Phrenic (template, XPH) Grey Elf would get +4 INT and CHA, +2 WIS and DEX, -2 STR and CON, 1 power point, Power Resistance = HD +10, and psi-like abilities based on your level.
And it's still not worth it for a spellcaster.
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2007-09-05, 04:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Races of Dragons has the Spellscale, which gets +2cha, -2con, low-light vision, dragonblood, and a daily bonus to various skill tjecks, and access to metamagic feats x/day.
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2007-09-05, 04:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
Fire Hobgoblins get a nice +2 to int in addition to the +2 to Con and Dex. Penalty to Cha, though.
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2007-09-05, 05:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
And while not a race the mage blooded template gives you -2 Wis and +2 Cha with no LA. I cant remember what book I saw it in though...
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2007-09-05, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
Dragon #306. The details are also in the 3.0 Templates PDF on Crystalkeep. It's a racial template that can be applied to any race with no level adjustment (LA +0). This allows you to do things like:
Magic-Blooded Grey Elf: +2 Dex, +2 Int, +2 Cha, -2 Str, -2 Con, -2 Wis
Magic-Blooded Fire Elf: +2 Dex, +2 Int, -2 Con, -2 Wis, Fire Resistance 5
Magic-Blooded Sun Elf: +2 Int, +2 Cha, -2 Con, -2 Wis
Magic-Blooded Star Elf: +4 Cha, -2 Con, -2 Wis
Magic-Blooded Spellscale: +4 Cha, -2 Con, -2 Wis
Magic-Blooded Lesser Fire Genasi: +2 Int, -2 Wis
Magic-Blooded Lesser Aasimar: +4 Cha
Magic-Blooded Lesser Tiefling: +2 Dex, +2 Int, +2 Cha, -2 Wis
And all of these are LA +0.
(There is a Desert racial template in the same article, but it doesn't effect ability scores, mostly just gives some skill bonuses and changes your preferred class to ranger, which can be useful if you're running into multiclass penalties.)
You can also avoid LAs by taking racial template levels, and either level up your racial abilities when convenient or just focus on class levels. On the Wizards site:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a
Also, same link, page down and consider the Half-Fey template. For LA +2 or two racial levels, you get +2 Dex, +2 Wis, +4 Cha, -2 Con, immunity to enchantment, charm person at will, several other spell-like abilities, and flight (speed = double land movement).Last edited by Darrin; 2007-09-05 at 09:51 AM.
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2007-09-05, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
as much as they are horrible for stereotypical reasons, drow get +2 int cha and dex.
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2007-09-05, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
IIRC, Spellscales get +2Cha, -2Con, and they have the Blood Quickening meditations, which they can use to better cast their arcane spells. Makes a tasty sorcerer.
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2007-09-05, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
Someone seems to have forgotten the basic Tiefling. +2 Int, but -2 Cha.
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2007-09-05, 12:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
I think he was looking for something which boosts either one or both with no detriment to the other.
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2007-09-05, 12:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-09-05, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
Venerable Kobold with the Dragonwrought feat. Dragonwrought Kobolds don't take the penalties of aging, but get the bonuses, so you've got +3 Int/Wis/Cha in addition to the normal Kobold goodies.
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2007-09-05, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Bizarro Half-Orcs.
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2007-09-05, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a race CHA/INT bonus
DR 313 pg 166 has 'Death-Touched', one of my favorite LA +1 templates. -2 con, +2 wis, +4 cha.
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2007-09-05, 07:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, and don't forget the Ogre Mage!
The level adjustment's not that much higher than what you mentioned, right?
...Right?