Spell DC

[Baskineli]

There are a lot of ways to get your AC to the sky, but I didn't see a lot of legitimate ways/threads to improve your spell DC.

When I say legitimate, I am talking about plain wizard, at lowish levels (not 20), without prestige classes. Just regular EQ/Feats/whatever.

I just don't like that my wizards spell DCs are just too low...

[Ikkitosen]

1. Increase casting stat - spells or items.

2. Take spell focus feats.

3. Be a gnome (+1 illusion DCs).

4. Be a grey elf (+2 int, no LA).

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[Zherog]

5) Be a sun elf (FR Campaign Setting) +2 Int, +0 LA

[SCPRedMage]

Spell Focus in the school you're most concerned about. +1 DC to a single school. Tome and Blood had a Greater Spell Focus feat that boosted the DC by 4, but that's 3.0, and I can't remember seeing one for 3.5; since Spell Focus granted a +2 bonus in 3.0, a 3.5 version of Greater would only be a +2.

[Dhavaer]

Spell Focus in the school you're most concerned about. +1 DC to a single school. Tome and Blood had a Greater Spell Focus feat that boosted the DC by 4, but that's 3.0, and I can't remember seeing one for 3.5; since Spell Focus granted a +2 bonus in 3.0, a 3.5 version of Greater would only be a +2.

3.5 Greater Spell Focus is in the Player's Handbook. It gives +2.

[UserClone]

-FR has a feat called Spellcasting Prodigy which gives an artificial 2-point bump to your casting stat, for the purposes of DCs and Bonus Spells.

-The Book of Exhalted Cheese has Vow of Nonviolence, which gives a WHOPPING +4 to your DCs (doesn't stack with any SF feats) but only if the spell doesn't deal lethal damage or ability damage.

[ndragonsbane]

-FR has a feat called Spellcasting Prodigy which gives an artificial 2-point bump to your casting stat, for the purposes of DCs and Bonus Spells.

Unless they erratad it (or I might just be wrong) Spellcasting prodigy only gives you extra bonus spells. The table lists DC's, but the actual feat description does not and description always trumps table if they contradict each other.

[Shhalahr Windrider]

The feat Charmer from Dragon magazine increases the DC of enchantment spells by 1 and stacks with (Greater) Spell Focus. You must specialize in enchantment and have Spell Focus (enchantment) to take it.

[GimliFett]

-FR has a feat called Spellcasting Prodigy which gives an artificial 2-point bump to your casting stat, for the purposes of DCs and Bonus Spells.

What ndragonsbane said --> NERF'd. The original did this, but for 3.5 they NERF'd the heck outta spell DCs. You might consider Heighten Spell.

[Person_Man]

A ton of Cleric domains add +1 Caster Level to specific types of spells.

The aquaman race from Stormwrack adds +2 to Water spells. Stormcaster PrC adds +2 to electricity spells.

[Anxe]

Bestow Curse on your enemy to lower his saves? Or feeblemind. Or wrack. Lots of ways to lower your opponent's saving throw bonuses.

[UserClone]

I was unaware that FR ever got 3.5'd. Where can I get a copy of that little gem?

[GimliFett]

I was unaware that FR ever got 3.5'd. Where can I get a copy of that little gem?

Player's Guide to Faerun. Though I don't play FR anymore, that and Races of Faerun were both 3.5 (RoF was a tweener). And AWESOME! The Southern Magician feat (RoF) is one of my favorites. Ever.

[Shhalahr Windrider]

A ton of Cleric domains add +1 Caster Level to specific types of spells.

How does caster level affect spell DC?

[Ikkitosen]

How does caster level affect spell DC?

Also, cleric domains tend to be taken by, y'know, clerics. Bad day?

[Shhalahr Windrider]

Also, cleric domains tend to be taken by, y'know, clerics. Bad day?

Though most "Arcanist gets a domain" things only apply to the spells, I believe there are a few odd ways for Wizards to gain access to domain granted powers.

[Ikkitosen]

Though most "Arcanist gets a domain" things only apply to the spells, I believe there are a few odd ways for Wizards to gain access to domain granted powers.

Within the OP's limits? Arcane Disciple is the only feat I can think of, and that's spells only.

[Shhalahr Windrider]

Within the OP's limits? Arcane Disciple is the only feat I can think of, and that's spells only.

Well, he's looking for spell DC, not caster level. So the point already wandering off topic, anyway.

[Zherog]

The feat Charmer from Dragon magazine increases the DC of enchantment spells by 1 and stacks with (Greater) Spell Focus. You must specialize in enchantment and have Spell Focus (enchantment) to take it.

Which issue of Dragon, please? I'm playing an enchanter, and that could come in handy.

[Ramza00]

The Tyranny Domain gives you +1 DC for any enchantment compulsion spells you may cast. You can take planar touchstone to get this domain granted power.

Also don't forget about save reducers, reduce ability scores, fear, nauesa, and other status effects, enervation etc.

[Ramza00]

Dragon Compedium has a feat called commanding which adds another +1 DC to your enchantment compulsion spells. Originally in Dragon 312, requires the pre requisitite feat persuasive and a high cha.

[Shhalahr Windrider]

Which issue of Dragon, please? I'm playing an enchanter, and that could come in handy.

I think it was in the "Spellcraft" column of #325, but I'll have to dig it out to be sure. Also in the article was a feat called Potent Enchantment. Same prerequisites, and it increases the HD limit of spells like sleep and geas by three. Pretty useful for any enchanter, I think.

I recall these feats easily because a cohort in a campaign I DM has them. I don't recall the issue number so readily, though, because their effects are sufficiently straightforward as to be memorized. I never need to look them up.

[Zherog]

Thanks. I'll poke my nose into issue 325 tonight.

[Zherog]

I'm gonna go and bump this back onto page 1; I scanned through 325 last night and didn't see anything like that. Any other guesses where it might be, Shhalahr?

[GimliFett]

Zherog: Page 77, Getting Schooled!

[Zherog]

Gah! I failed my Search check!

Thanks - I'll look again tonight.

[GimliFett]

I think your avatar may affect your Search checks...
Personally, I'm more a Murphy's- and Newcastle-man.

BACK on topic(-ish), I don't much care for most of those feats, especially the Conjuration one. You'd think they could come up with a better Conjuration-flavored feat, something that gives you some extended durations with [summoning] or [creation], along the lines of adding your Primary Casting Mod to the duration?

[Fax Celestis]

If you're a sorceror, there's the Sherem-Lar and Sherezem-Lar Sorceror feats out of Ghostwalk. Taking both (which have to be taken at first level) nets you an artificial 4 point boost to your casting stat for the purposes of spell DCs and spells per day. Also, it makes your eyes green.

[Lord Lorac Silvanos]

Zherog: Getting Schooled!

Am I the only one that appreciates the irony in this.

[GimliFett]

Except Ghostwalk was 3.0 and thus pre-DC-nerfing! I'm sure it would have suffered the same fate as Spellcasting Prodigy.

Lord Silvanos: Didn't even think about it. Much funny.