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    confused Goblin Love...

    No, not that kind... perv.

    I'm talking about how every moderately main stream race out there seems to have a large degree of support (Some bordering on cult worship) and these cute little guys seem to serve only as fodder. Please, allow me to elaborate.

    The Drow: With their evil tendencies and cool flavor coupled with great stats and an iconic hero, we'll be seeing Chaotic Good Drizzit clones well into 5th ed.

    The Hobgoblins: Arguably the worst +1 level adjustment race available, this has caused many to flock to their defence, resulting in over optimized builds and encounters with militaristic Hobgoblin platoons with over-the-top contingency plans.

    The Orc: A rather cliche foe but one with a core race, support from literature (Ooh R.A. Salvatore, how many non-standard icons will you create?) and a beefy strength score, a number of Barbarians suddenly have a new friend.

    The Kobold: The worse of them all, the Kobold has developed a following the belies their abilities. With the appearence of Trucker's Kobolds and hundreds of horror stories about how well planned Kobolds and a few traps have defeated X level characters everyone and their dog seems to think these creatures gods amoung the under-dog.

    With this in mind I want to see all the support for one of the coolest races around, the Goblins. Lets hear some stories about how your goblin Rogue pulled off a great heist or the local band of goblins defeated your 12th level fighter. Got some great goblin warboss you've been dieing to share with the world? Nows your chance! Goblins patrons of the world, unite!

    (I think I may have overdone that last part a bit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danin View Post
    No, not that kind... perv.
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    Redcloak aside, I would like to see a few cool goblin stories myself.

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    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots.html
    http://www.goblinscomic.com/

    You are not alone in your like of goblins.

    Besides the above comics, they are, in fact, my favorite monster humanoids. Intelligent, organized (if less so than their oranger cousins), actually useful as characters (for stealth optimization, only whisper gnomes are better at LA 0), and believable as part of a larger, "civilized" society, especially in association with their Hobgoblin and Bugbear brethren (see Darguun in Eberron).

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    I actually proposed a book about Goblinoids and Orcs to WotC... about a week before they announced "Nine Months to Fourth Edition!"

    So... yeah.

    Oh, hey, goblinoid love!
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    Come on people, share in the Goblin love!

    That came out wrong...

    I happen to be rolling up a goblin Marshal based of Sun Tzu.

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    I like kobolds. They're cute and cuddly and more awesome than goblins will ever be. Nya nya.

    That being said, Hobgoblins actually have a decent amount of story behind them. Well, not exactly behind them so much as in front of them, but they center in lots of things - the ToB springs to mind first.

    Regular goblins? They're stupid and small and Chaotic Evil. Though I do agree there should be a Races of the Horde or something book with goblins, orcs, and possibly giants, I can understand how they're not the top of WotC's list.

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    I rather like lizardfolk, but they appear to be rare in fiction.

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    I just got the first issue of Pathfinder; the first adventure presented centers around goblins, who it slightly reinvents as creatures by turns comic and frighteningly sadistic--madcap little bumblers, but also frightening inventive creatures with a taste for human flesh and an abject hatred of dogs and horses. When you fight their chieftain, he's riding a giant gecko!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SadisticFishing View Post
    Regular goblins? They're stupid and small and Chaotic Evil. Though I do agree there should be a Races of the Horde or something book with goblins, orcs, and possibly giants, I can understand how they're not the top of WotC's list.
    Erm... they are not stupid (10 int, average human) or Chaotic Evil (Neutral Evil, actually) but they are small. 1 out of 3 ain't bad I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SadisticFishing View Post
    I like kobolds. They're cute and cuddly and more awesome than goblins will ever be.
    Cute...and...cuddly? Interesting.

    As far as monsters go, I don't often use them. I DM a lot of Urban campaigns, where your worst enemy is probably the guy sitting next to you at dinner, with whom you must make pleasant conversation before you try to break into his house and assassinate him (later that evening, of course).
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    I love gobbers! They're just cool! In fact I'm currently playing a second level Goblin Ranger (see Ozzgar the Wolf in my sig) in a PbP. He's pretty cool! And Scottish! First two rounds of combat in the game I rapid shotted two arrows into a gibberling and dropped it. 2 Rounds, 4 Arrows, 2 Dead Gibberlings. Then the dice roller crapped on me and now I haven't even rolled above 8 (with +6's and +4's), I think. I think they should NOT have a Charisma penalty, btw. Dex for Str is plenty penalty.
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    Preach it, brother!
    I'm incurable goblin fan in all settings and systems. It's because they're small, sneaky and always treated as cannon fodder or slaves to bigger monsters. Out of typical monstrous races goblins get the less stuff. I'm seriously considering playing evil(or good) goblin paladin riding on worg, and in my campaign settings goblins hold the equal place among all other sentinent races.
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    Mad love for Goblins right here! Everything from the Henson puppets of "Labyrinth", to the Gobbos and Gretchin of Warhammer, to the LOTR Moria Goblins, to the Rokugani bakemono, to Warcraft's mad gadgeteers ("I laugh in the face of danger! Aaaaaarghahaha!!!), to Pathfinder's trash-stealing dogslicers.

    Goblins are the Eddie and Richie of the D&D world: the sneaky, grotty, slapstick-loving, garbage-eating little guys who can't get a break, but never give up.

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    I couldn't resist. Anyhow, goblins are a classic. Played well, they can be vicious, nasty and give the party enough nightmares that they are glad they've moved on to CR5 critters.

    I have sympathy for the goblins. After all ...

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    I love throwing in goblin encouters at high levels, Kobolds work for this as well. Just let them try to steam-roller the pathetic CR3 gribbly, then hit them with its 14 levels of wizard.... MWA-HA-HA
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    Hey goblins are amazing, especially the jungle goblin (Go climb speed)! We should make a user group called Optimistic Goblin Lovers. I'd join.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tataraus View Post
    Hey goblins are amazing, especially the jungle goblin (Go climb speed)! We should make a user group called Optimistic Goblin Lovers. I'd join.
    I'd be in, too!
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    Needs better name. Universal Goblin Solidarity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    I just got the first issue of Pathfinder; the first adventure presented centers around goblins, who it slightly reinvents as creatures by turns comic and frighteningly sadistic--madcap little bumblers, but also frightening inventive creatures with a taste for human flesh and an abject hatred of dogs and horses. When you fight their chieftain, he's riding a giant gecko!
    I liked that as well. The art was well done, too, giving them a slightly different look. The goblins in that book are great. They'd be downright cute if they weren't so vicious and sociopathic.
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    I'm starting up a WoW campaign and goblins are unstoppable as tinkers. They get tons of extra feats in their class and get double range increments on throwing anything that explodes! Goblins are the champs in WoW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M0rt View Post
    Needs better name. Universal Goblin Solidarity?
    You mean Interversal?
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    Another good universe for Goblins is the Iron Kingdoms. Gobbers for the win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GimliFett View Post
    You mean Interversal?
    Possibly, yeah. Inerversal Goblin Solidarity then.

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    I'm starting up a WoW campaign and goblins are unstoppable as tinkers. They get tons of extra feats in their class and get double range increments on throwing anything that explodes! Goblins are the champs in WoW!
    Yep, goblins in Warcraft universe are awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy_Uncle_Doug View Post
    Another good universe for Goblins is the Iron Kingdoms. Gobbers for the win.
    Yeah, I do love me some gobbers. And boggers, but mostly gobbers. IK FTW!
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    Gobber Bodgers and Bogrin just make that world so cool. That and the giant, artillery-firing robots -- That are repaired by Gobber Bodgers!! YES!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy_Uncle_Doug View Post
    Gobber Bodgers and Bogrin just make that world so cool. That and the giant, artillery-firing robots -- That are repaired by Gobber Bodgers!! YES!
    Yes, indeedy! I have sooo wanted to play a Gobber Warcaster...
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    How cool would that be. He'd be the only warcaster that can ride his own warjacks!
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    Oooo. I could see that as one of his special abilities!
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