Kill6BillionDemons II: The Successor's coming will be followed by 108 burning threads

[Eldan]

Meanwhile, the word Angel is male in German, even when talking about a female angel, because we don't give a ****.

[Onyavar]

While I am curious about why Gog-Agog is interested in Allison, I am really REALLY curious why Allison chose to greet her with a fist.

A year happened - they might have met before? Or Allison is always killing intruders to her house? Or Allison learned about Gog-Agog from Incubus and immediately distrusts her? Or Allison learned about Gog-Agog from White Chain or Cio?


On another note, again, the Universal Metaconstant alphabet proves to be inconsistent in the vowels.

So far, we have observed the "O" that is sometimes an "A", and the "U" that is sometimes an "O" and a "OU" which has appeared once, and now a completely new symbol for the "O", that looks like a "G/K" in reverse.

Is it GOG-AGOG and INGYUFS? Or KOK-AKOK and INKYUBS? Kok-Akok makes me think of the kük török, just by how it sounds. Or is this new "O" supposed to be a consonant? (It really looks so to me, at least). Is Goggies name really KGK-AKGK, or GKG-AGKG?

[Doran]

Honestly for Alison to have NOT spent the year learning of the personalities and weaknesses of her 7 main enemies from an angel and a devil does not make a lot of sense.

[PraetorDragoon]

While I am curious about why Gog-Agog is interested in Allison, I am really REALLY curious why Allison chose to greet her with a fist.

In her own words, "She is so cool!"

[Smurfton]

Maybe revenge for when Gog-Agog put an eye in Allison's back?
It's been a while since the mspa forums died, but I do recall something along those lines happening in original ksbd.

More seriously, I would probably punch any demiurge that came to my house. Especially if I'm am existential threat to them, and they're definitely here to manipulate me.

[lord_khaine]

This his honestly stupidity of a suicidal level.
Like violently banging on a nuklear bomb because the timer had frozen stupid.

When Gog-Agog arrives like this then its clear that its here to negotiate.
And Allison should know from her sparring just how wide the gasp is between her and it.
So punching it is straight up moronic.

[Olinser]

This his honestly stupidity of a suicidal level.
Like violently banging on a nuklear bomb because the timer had frozen stupid.

When Gog-Agog arrives like this then its clear that its here to negotiate.
And Allison should know from her sparring just how wide the gasp is between her and it.
So punching it is straight up moronic.

Still not as moronic as accepting Incubus' offer.

But I think less moronic than you think.

She's not FIGHTING it or actually attacking. She punched it in the face and is telling it to get lost. 100% guarantee that over the last year she's been learning as much as she can from Cio, White Chain, and anybody else around her of the Demiurge's particular strengths/weaknesses.

I'm almost 100% certain she knows that a punch doesn't actual hurt Gog-Agog, losing a head is a minor inconvenience to it.

Punching it in the face is the functional equivalent of throwing a drink at it and telling it to get lost.

And we literally just got poker a couple panels ago. Allison's bluffing.

[PraetorDragoon]

Now I'm wondering if the earlier person was a disguise or some body gog-agog hijacked and rebuild into her image.

[lord_khaine]

And we literally just got poker a couple panels ago. Allison's bluffing.

Thats a good point. It does of course not know how strong Allison is.
And if it does not feel pain, then its likely to be less insulted by a punch to the face.

Also, SWEET GODS! it suddenly jumped wildly up on the threat scale.
Thats just creepy.

[mystic1110]

She should have at least hidden the worm in a tequila shot

[Iruka]

Now I'm wondering if the earlier person was a disguise or some body gog-agog hijacked and rebuild into her image.

I had wondered before if the followers around Gog-Agog were just more worms it used to mimic the courts of the other Demiurgs.

I think that if you eat one of the worms, it hijacks you to an extent that the difference between you and the collective that is Gog-Agog becomes meaningless. It can reform any body it inhabits at will, maybe by spontaneously multiplying the local worms.

[Leewei]

The demiurges would never stoop so low as to faking a minion's death. The jester's gory demise was very real, and certainly meant to disgust and intimidate.

[Gez]

While I am curious about why Gog-Agog is interested in Allison, I am really REALLY curious why Allison chose to greet her with a fist.

Because a clown just exploded in front of her in a shower of gore, and Gog-Agog burst out of it.

Don't startle people (original)

[Olinser]

Now I'm wondering if the earlier person was a disguise or some body gog-agog hijacked and rebuild into her image.

Gog can clearly warp the bodies it controls - remember its first appearance was having its head blown off by Mottom and complaining that it was 'working on that face'.

[mystic1110]

There's a steamboat willie cameo on the third panel! (top right tv panel). Gog = Disney ever expanding and media/entertainment monopoly).

[Grek]

Almost certainly not, Jadis is almost literally nothing BUT a mind at this point.

I'm still surprised Mammon was Tower, though, so anything could happen.

Getting back to this, I am like 80% sure Jadis is Blade. Why?

Jadis went crazy because she 'saw the shape of the world'. The cosmos was created by division, and the sanctioned action is to Cut. What shape could the world be, if not blade-shaped?

[-D-]

Getting back to this, I am like 80% sure Jadis is Blade. Why?

Jadis went crazy because she 'saw the shape of the world'. The cosmos was created by division, and the sanctioned action is to Cut. What shape could the world be, if not blade-shaped?

The world is quite literally wheel-shaped, we know this from Aesma's stories and the way the universe looks.

[Onyavar]

Hmm, hadn't seen that before, but I agree those are likely the words.

The Glory, The Tower, The Flame, The Diamond, The Blade, The Mind, The Beast

So then that leaves us with Tower, Diamond, Blade, Mind, Beast.

My guess there is that Jagganoth = Blade, Jadis = Diamond, Gog-Agog = Mind, Mammon = Beast, Solomon David = Tower

Mottom - Glory
Flame - Incubus
Tower - Mamon
Beast- Gog Agog
Diamond - Solomon

Leaving The Blade & The Mind.

I'm full in on Jag being Mind now.

Almost certainly not, Jadis is almost literally nothing BUT a mind at this point.

I'm still surprised Mammon was Tower, though, so anything could happen.

I have to agree with mystic: Jagganoth must be Mind, Jadis must be Blade. Just 'cause Abbadon likes to mess with his readers.

[-D-]

I have to agree with mystic: Jagganoth must be Mind, Jadis must be Blade. Just 'cause Abbadon likes to mess with his readers.

Or maybe he's messing with readers so much, he's double subverting the expectation (i.e. Jadis is Mind, Jagganoth is Blade, because that's logical).

[Grek]

I see no reason to suppose that blades and wheels are not the same shape. We already know that there is a fundamental identity between division and transportation, and between cutting and motion when Royalty is involved.

[mystic1110]

The world is quite literally wheel-shaped

"What is the shape of the universe?” “It is somewhat wheel-shaped,” said Aesma, which was a completely wrong answer.

[-D-]

"What is the shape of the universe?” “It is somewhat wheel-shaped,” said Aesma, which was a completely wrong answer.

If you're going to quote it, quote it in essence.

"The universe is somewhat wheel-shaped!" said Aesma, proud.

"Surely, but only from one angle," said YISUN, amused.

It saying it's completely wrong, is bit of a lie in itself. It's a correct answer, for some angles. Namely the one we see in comic.

[Iruka]

What a bunch of clowns...

I wonder what the factors are on Goggy reforming its body. Earlier it seemd to have trouble to get its face back into shape, now it can reform perfectly on a whim. Maybe the earlier bit as done intentionally for comedy?

[lord_khaine]

It does seem clear it has been clowning around on purpose.
Acting like a idiot to make the others underestimate it.

[Grek]

Pet Peeve: Gog-Agog isn't an it. They're either a 'she' (because they manifest as a green female clown), or else she's a 'they' (because she is literally several trillion worms). The pronoun 'it' is reserved for a non-plural object and Gog-Agog is neither.

[lord_khaine]

Gog-Agog isnt a she, just because it choses to assume the form of a female green clown.
We have seen how it can pretty much chose what to look like.

They does not cover it either. Because there are only 1 Gog-Agog.
It is the only word that really covers a cosmic worm horror.

[Eldan]

Gog-Agog isnt a she, just because it choses to assume the form of a female green clown.
We have seen how it can pretty much chose what to look like.

They does not cover it either. Because there are only 1 Gog-Agog.
It is the only word that really covers a cosmic worm horror.

Yeah. Gog-Agog is not a they, just like we aren't a they because we are made up of billions of cells.

[Aquillion]

Pet Peeve: Gog-Agog isn't an it. They're either a 'she' (because they manifest as a green female clown), or else she's a 'they' (because she is literally several trillion worms). The pronoun 'it' is reserved for a non-plural object and Gog-Agog is neither.

At one point I seem to recall that the author said that Juggernaut Star intentionally used "it" as a pronoun to emphasize rejection of humanity, but I think that was dropped.

[Hamsandlich]

Gog-Agog isnt a she, just because it choses to assume the form of a female green clown.
We have seen how it can pretty much chose what to look like.

They does not cover it either. Because there are only 1 Gog-Agog.
It is the only word that really covers a cosmic worm horror.

Gog-Agog has been referred to with female pronouns by the author and addressed as female in text and has had no objection to the designation. She's clearly presenting as female. Juggernaut Star is referred to as an it to represent its personal and intentional distance from humanity.

[lord_khaine]

Gog-Agog has been referred to with female pronouns by the author and addressed as female in text and has had no objection to the designation. She's clearly presenting as female. Juggernaut Star is referred to as an it to represent its personal and intentional distance from humanity.

It has been adressed as Queen of Worms a single time by Solomon, thats about what i can find.
And that bit could easily just be Solomon being polite in general.

We are still lacking Gog-Agog's backstory. But i find it pretty likely its about as far from humanity as Juggernaut Star.
If it turns out to be something like the conciousness of a female demi-urge surviving in the worms that consumed her body,
then yes i am going to turn my stance on this.

But so far we just know its a hive-mind of worms, whom as i recall are hermaphodites (or however its spelled)