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2019-02-02, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
I made a detailed 13-floor, mid-level dungeon, from mountain-peak to drow-infested base, for a wizard trying to hide the secret of creating reproduction-capable life. However, I don't think my players have the attention to detail to make it without hints, so I want a companion character-and I was considering an artifact item, which maybe communicates through dreams. Any good suggestions?
Last edited by minichirops; 2019-02-02 at 10:31 AM. Reason: Clarification
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2019-02-02, 11:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
Perhaps a golem or homunculus? The dungeon presumably needs maintaining, and the wizard needs servants.
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2019-02-02, 05:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
I once made a mansion owned by an evil wizard who had a narcissistic personality and conducting less-than-reputable experiments. In one of the rooms he had a large terrarium with many strange animals, and the largest one had a beautiful exotic bird living inside a self-sustained ecosystem with all the insects it could eat. The bird turned out to be an elf who had attempted to steal a relic from the wizard many years ago, was captured, polymorphed into a bird, and kept as a pet. Needless to say that when the party found him and the thief was freed, he was more than happy to assist the party and extract some revenge for his humiliating imprisonment.
Twist: Artifact the thief was after was also the same artifact the party wanted, so there was some inter-party conflict too.
You're more than welcomed to use some variant of my plot if it suits your needs. :DLast edited by Avista; 2019-02-02 at 05:29 PM.
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2019-02-02, 06:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
The mad wizard got thrown out of its dungeon by its creations and officially comes as such to the party and asks for help in retaking the dungeon and tell them it would be ready to give them the artifact they wanted to get.
He is also ready to guide them because it is curious about what its creations did.Last edited by noob; 2019-02-02 at 06:23 PM.
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2019-02-03, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
Have you considered that if your players don't have the attention span to focus on this dungeon, it might not be a good idea to force a dungeon like this on them? Sometimes it's a good idea to adapt to the playstyle of your players. Doing the opposite can be a good thing too, if you want to challenge your players, but a 13 level dungeon might be overdoing it.
Another thing is that you're trying to take away player agency. You're essentially robbing the players of the fun of discovering stuff on their own this way. Your players might feel a bit railroaded, even if they're not.
The best thing would be a kind of balance between these 2 playstyles. A middle way of sorts.
My solution would be to instead use the 3 clues rule. Instead of giving the players 1 clue at a time, you give them 3 so that even the dumbest players on the planet could follow your trail of bread crumbs.
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2019-02-03, 12:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
I certainly like the curiosity motive for
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2019-02-03, 05:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
The wizard's apprentice or foe cursed and turned into a small animal or object? The cursed victim can only communicate through dreams.
Imagine a mouse approaching a party and trying to pantomime it wants someone to sleep. Or the mouse just sneaks into the sleeping bag of one of the PCs. Or they can just stumble upon the cursed item.
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2019-02-03, 06:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
How about a gargoyle that always lies?
I'll top the bill, I'll earn the kill, I have to find the will to carry on, with the show, with the show.
(thanks Prime for awesum avatar, and thank you to all of the original BleachItP cast, it was great RP'ing with you)
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2019-02-03, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
A ball of thread, like the one Ariadne gave to Theseus.
Edit: A magic eight ball.Last edited by the_david; 2019-02-03 at 06:25 PM.
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2019-02-04, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
If you't not stuck on the dream communication, give the players a shrunken head, an old enemy of the wizard who he carried around for years and so knows the dungeon pretty well. After a while it got lost or stolen or forgotten, and the players find it in an old wardrobe or chest or something. Give it a personality, an accent maybe, and quirks. Maybe it likes alcohol and loudly demands to drink any time it sees wine or other booze, which makes it drunk and starts it singing. Maybe it's friends with some group in the dungeon that owned it for a while and doesn't want the players to kill them. Maybe it demands a share in the treasure so it can get raised.
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2019-02-05, 06:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
Hm ... it needs to be Frankenstein.
No, see - this wizard has figured out how to make life, right. So he made his prototype lifeform - 'Frankenstein' - and Frankenstein escaped into the world, only to discover there's no one like him anywhere. He's all alone, unique, unloved, and so on. He doesn't have to be monstrous, or patchwork, or anything, though he can if you want him to, he can basically be anything.
The only important part is that he needs to reach the source, whatever arcane horror show the wizard used to create him (m/f) to create another like himself - to not be alone, forever.
I mean clearly he needs to be monstrous somehow. Otherwise there'll be no moral dilemma.
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2019-02-06, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
Just give into the Alice in Wonderland tropes and make a bunny familiar. One that is pissed with the mad wizard and secretly is his imp familiar in disguise, wanting to lead adventurers to his master to finally kill him and claim his soul.
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2019-02-06, 02:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-02-09, 06:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
A cracked crystal orb which project an "interactive hologram". it is a guide to the dungeon, the wizard created it because he is really absent minded and kept forgetting the layout of the rooms and getting lost in it. He know the map of the dungeon and many information about it, he can answer questions and even offer information spontaneously, even if something in an annoying or non appropriate way("IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO SNEAK PAST THESE MONSTERS. CAN I SUGGEST YOU TO..."), kinda like Clippy, the old assistant of Microsoft Office.
It is cracked because it is damaged, (that is why the wizard left it behind) and its information could be missing, incomplete or even outdated, if you don't want to make things to easy for the players.I don't make the crazy rules, I just twist them to my purpose
"...the Perilious Path of Crushing Doom"
" Please, tell me it is actually filled with cute, fuzzy bunnies and they just named it that to be ironic."
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2019-02-09, 08:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-02-09, 09:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
Last edited by Mutazoia; 2019-02-09 at 09:12 PM.
"Sleeping late might not be a virtue, but it sure aint no vice. The old saw about the early bird and the worm just goes to show that the worm should have stayed in bed."
- L. Long
I think, therefore I get really, really annoyed at people who won't.
"A plucky band of renegade short-order cooks fighting the Empire with the power of cheap, delicious food and a side order of whup-ass."
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2019-02-10, 07:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
you could put 50 quests in the dungeon from stuff like "protect the goblins and help them get out of the dungeon and be free" to "redeem the black guard here back in Clerichood"
Also each creature is a quest in itself: as Sasha said about pokemon: "I am going to enslave them all" and as Paladin told about creatures "I am going to turn all of them good against their will then protect them"Last edited by noob; 2019-02-10 at 07:26 AM.
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2019-03-26, 08:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
How about an escaped slave/prisoner (someone who escaped from the drow) who ran screaming out of the dungeon and by a miracle survived. Maybe he or she didn't make it all the way out and is found by the adventurers between the first and second level of the dungeon, badly wounded, hungry, thirsty, tired - and if the PCs offer food/drink/healing/.. maybe even weapons & armor, the escaped slave is willing to go back down to get revenge on the evil drow.
This person won't know all the ins and outs of the dungeon, but can recognize some landmarks from time-to-time: "I think I remember there was a locked door down that way." / "I heard sounds of monsters in this area when I last passed through it." / "I almost sprung a trap running down this hallway, but I don't remember where it is." / etc.
Maybe the NPC is a 1st- or 2nd-level cleric and has access to healing and detection spells, but needs to rest and find some specific items necessary to construct a makeshift shrine first. In combat, the character will only fight if absolutely necessary (which might be because party members are coercing . .) and if not well-protected by the party should easily get hurt and be at risk of dying - thus taking away the heroes valuable resource.
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2019-03-27, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
A broken construct girl; human face, ceramic and/or wax shell, clockwork insides, human mind, old dirty doll-like clothes... she was discarded and thrown into a pit, and had resigned herself to spend eternity there...
If you do it well, they will die for her, they will slay dragons and topple thrones to repair her...
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2019-03-27, 11:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
Is the wizard at the mountain peak? If so, then you could have an evil or at least hireable-by-evil party who normally live within the Drow-infested base, but whom the Drow have hired/ordered to scout out the dungeon with a view to them taking over. Gives you one or two less levels for the party to scout (since the drow would presumably have maps), a base within the dungeon and lots of potential for side quests, intrigue etc.
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2019-03-28, 12:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I made a mad wizard dungeon, but I need a guide npc
An extremely adorable halfling who’s a bit flighty and is in it for the ADVENTURE! But can’t make it on his own. He’s been with other parties (they turned out not to be nice people and tried to hurt or avandon him, but he’s clever and sneaky), so he knows some of he tricks and secrets and will share hem if the party lets him come along.
A good sense motive or prolonged observation of his immature traits might clue people in that this is actually an elven child masquerading as a halfling.
Except his memory of the place starts out spotty, but as they find key chambers with clues as to what he mad mage was hiding, he suddenly recalls more. Also, he more he recalls, the older he gets.
Turns out, this is the mad mage himself; he’d scattered his very mind and experience across the dungeon to protect his secrets. This not only de-leveled him, but the ritual he used was meant as a twisted gift by its original demonic (or jerkface genie) creator as an answer to requests for eternal youth. It drains memories as it makes you younger. The mad mage wanted it originally for the side effect,, and considered the youthening as the knock-on.
Maybe he’d even been being raised by some of his creations and got legitimately lost when a band of adventures attacked.