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Thread: Making the headless horseman
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2007-10-03, 07:18 PM (ISO 8601)Halfling in the Playground
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Making the headless horseman
Well i've tasked myself recently to build the equivilant of the heshan mercanary (after death). I need an undead with out a head, and something that resembles a free will. I imagine he's a Fighter/barb/tempest mix. I'm just curious what undead type could fit his needs. Any ideas. Please try and post stats of said undead type/template ^^
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2007-10-03, 08:56 PM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Re: Making the headless horseman
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58184
It's Homebrew, but it's pretty fitting for what you're lookig for. I can't take credit for it, but it's very, very nice.If there's a rule, there's someone out there trying to figure out how to get around it just to piss off his DM.
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2007-10-03, 08:58 PM (ISO 8601)Firbolg in the Playground
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Hmmm, well first of all think of how he's going to see without a head. And is he corporeal? What about his horse? As far as the mount goes I just say give a horse the fiendish template. If he has a weakness like not being able to cross a certain bridge, as in the original story, this might affect the CR.
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2007-10-03, 09:05 PM (ISO 8601)Dwarf in the Playground
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If he's really high-level, give him a Nightmare for a horse. :P
To fix some of the problems above, find a way to give him Blindsight, or at least Blindsense.
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2007-10-03, 09:18 PM (ISO 8601)Firbolg in the Playground
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You beat me to it, Jack! Anyway, I heartily second the endorsement, though it would be nice if we had some idea of intended CR.
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2007-10-03, 09:22 PM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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I suggest a monk/kensia. Kensia can enchant a signature weapon. It specifically says that natural weapons count. A monk can make attacks with any part of thier body, such as the head. Therefor, you can enchant the head with Throwing and returning, and you have the perfect image.
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2007-10-03, 09:48 PM (ISO 8601)Titan in the Playground
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IIRC, nowhere in RAW does a creature require eyes to see. While this sounds dumb, there are lots of things that probably don't have eyes (oozes come to mind) that aren't treated as blind by RAW. Having an undead character that sees without a head isn't a particular stretch from, say, a skeleton, which doesn't have eyes.
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2007-10-03, 09:51 PM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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It could be a Ghost riding a Lesser Nightmare (It doesnt't have to be evil it could be a Paladin Variant Sacred Watcher or Spectral Harper (Both are basically Ghost variants)) that can not be put to rest who roams the highways and can not rest until it it's head is found or restored.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/ghost.htmLast edited by CASTLEMIKE; 2007-10-03 at 09:53 PM.
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2007-10-04, 04:53 AM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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Re: Making the headless horseman
Use the Death Knight template, take away his followers and spell-like abilities, add in immunity to gaze attacks, blindsight, immunity to the vorpal property and some knid of find person ability for whoever he's trying to kill. Pretty much spot on as far as i can see.
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2007-10-04, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)Halfling in the Playground
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Re: Making the headless horseman
LOL that's exactly what i did! I'm still going to look into that other one though ^^ thanks (by the way, i'm going for a sort of, Sleepy hallow remake, the one with johney depp horseman) Originally Posted by mostlyharmful
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2007-10-04, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)Dwarf in the Playground
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Re: Making the headless horseman
If by "heshan" you mean "german mercenary", it's spelled "hessian"... and that's redundant.
No need to thank me, citizen. The grammar nazi is always here to help in the times you least want me. I now depart, to better drive crazy other poor souls with my obnoxious and unnecessary presence.
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2007-10-04, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)Barbarian in the Playground
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Re: Making the headless horseman
I think that both the Death Knight and Swordwraith templates are in the Fiend Folio. Either would probably work. Just assume that by whatever curse it unlives, it's also able to function without a head.
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2007-10-04, 03:10 PM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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Great minds and all that... Originally Posted by LordMalrog
LOL that's exactly what i did! I'm still going to look into that other one though ^^ thanks (by the way, i'm going for a sort of, Sleepy hallow remake, the one with johney depp horseman)
Oh and the horseman was the guy that played Darth Maul, sooooo much cooler than the bumbling co-star
Give them bread and circusses and the plebs wont rise against you. Give adventurers dungeons and trapped chests and they won't waste time looking to ransack your home and kill your wife.
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2007-10-04, 08:52 PM (ISO 8601)Halfling in the Playground
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Re: Making the headless horseman
beat me to it, except whats with the redundent part?If by "heshan" you mean "german mercenary", it's spelled "hessian"... and that's redundant.
there were multiple German states that mercenarys came from. And just to point out most Hessians were not not mercenarys in the truest sense. Their prince collected the money from good (insane) King George, and then the prince forced conscripts to come over and fight. A good many then promptly diserted and fought for the US.
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