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    Minrah is still channeling Elan, I see.

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    Indeed. The action sequence continues!

    I'm glad to see the dwarves in action -- it seemed for awhile there as if only the OOTS actually got to do anything. While the OOTS is still the cause of this intervention, it's nice to see the dwarves are able to take care of business themselves.

    ETA: I was a bit confused at first. I would have thought anyone "violating dwarven law" would be instantly petrified, and plane shifting someone would seem to be such a violation. But then I looked and that only applies to the BLUE barrier. It appears the dwarves and vampires are duking it out in the space between the orange and blue barriers, where such shenanigans are permitted.

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    So glad Minrah wasn't done living.

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    Ouch. Hostile plane shift is always a nasty one.

    I guess they didn't use an immediately fatal plane *just* to deny Thor one more soul. Petty.

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    Poor guy who's name I did but catch...

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    And as such, we say good bye to weird speaking dwarf guy. Kind of wish we learnt why he spoke so different or at least what class he is.
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    No! Not guy-whose-name-Minrah-didn't-catch! He was the fresh face this story needed, but his life was cut tragically short before he could be merchandised!

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    I love Minrah.
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    So, what do you think that plane is? The layer Malbolge in the Nine Hells? Gehenna? Somewhere in Hades?
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    I definitely wasn't refreshing the forums at work hoping for a new comic or anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by pendell View Post
    ETA: I was a bit confused at first. I would have thought anyone "violating dwarven law" would be instantly petrified, and plane shifting someone would seem to be such a violation. But then I looked and that only applies to the BLUE barrier. It appears the dwarves and vampires are duking it out in the space between the orange and blue barriers, where such shenanigans are permitted.
    I don't know if we'll find out-- indeed, I rather think it unlikely-- but I would like to know what exactly the thought process was that the designers of this chamber had for structuring it in such a way.

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    Wherever that is, it does not seem like a fun place to be plane-shifted to. Hopefully he will soon be rescued.


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    If Minrah and Durkon aren't in a relationship when all this is over, I'm going to be terribly disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxzan Proditor View Post
    Wherever that is, it does not seem like a fun place to be plane-shifted to. Hopefully he will soon be rescued.
    I love it. It's the Evil opposite to the Mountain of Good that Roy was climbing in the LG Afterlife.

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    Minrah is awesome. And that guy is definitely bad!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    I don't know if we'll find out-- indeed, I rather think it unlikely-- but I would like to know what exactly the thought process was that the designers of this chamber had for structuring it in such a way.
    As Gonthor theorized, it could be because the designers thought only outsiders would ever attack them, or that the weakness was left on purpose so that the people in charge might be able to manipulate things unseen.
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    Oh I wonder if it's one of those punishment zones that keeps you alive so you CAN get hurt forever.

    Like the rooms in Sorcerer or something.
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    I'm loving this, but wondering what Xykon is up to while all this vampy action is going on.

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    Tbh I kinda got the impression "infinite pain slope" was just a metaphor, kinda, in the sense that it was just a slope that went on forever, so he would just keep bouncing off the side.

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    Spiel Periwinkle, nooooo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resileaf View Post
    As Gonthor theorized, it could be because the designers thought only outsiders would ever attack them, or that the weakness was left on purpose so that the people in charge might be able to manipulate things unseen.
    So, because plot, then?

    The correct thing to do would seem to be for the orange and blue barriers to be nearly consecutive, so there's no room for fooling around.
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    Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. That must hurt a lot.
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    Ah, Not-Thad, we hardly knew ye. You were too powerful, and in danger of overshadowing PCs, so narrative convenience required you to be nullified. You shall be missed.

    Quote Originally Posted by pendell View Post
    t appears the dwarves and vampires are duking it out in the space between the orange and blue barriers, where such shenanigans are permitted.

    Respectfully,

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    They are indeed. Given that they bring bodyguards to the meeting, the separation is probably designed to give a place for those bodyguards to do their job. With the added advantage that they would have had time to re-buff, while anyone coming in would just had all their magic dispelled.

    Quote Originally Posted by drazen View Post
    So, because plot, then?

    The correct thing to do would seem to be for the orange and blue barriers to be nearly consecutive, so there's no room for fooling around.
    That assumes (at least) 1) that they were put in place at the same time; b) that they can be combined; iii) that they don't want their bodyguards given the extra layer of protection by forcing enemies to go through a magical barrier; and four) that it wasn't a compromise between factions, some of which feared different scenarios.

    I find no reason to make all those assumptions.

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    I warned you about slopes, bro.

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    Minrah still need to work on her mid-battle banter against villains. The intent is here, but the execution still has lots or room for progress.
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    Ouch...

    Poor Durkon's Cousin's Brother-in-Law's Niece's Fiance (or DCBILNF?),Just thinking about that plane of existence makes me itchy.
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    Never change Minrah.

    Also vampire with sandy hair, I wouldn’t be so prodigal with my Plane Shift spells if I was on a mission to destroy the planet I am currently standing on had an at-will ability that makes me immune to the damage my foes can inflict and time was on my side. But that’s just me. You do you.
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    Dammit! We were so close to finding out what that guy was!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    had an at-will ability that makes me immune to the damage my foes can inflict
    I don't know about that. I would not be surprised if that blue sword of his cut smoke clouds as effectively as it cuts undead flesh.

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    Man.

    Blue sword guy didn’t exactly cover himself in glory there. Whiffed on what I guess was every attack of a full attack and then failed his savings throw and got tossed out of the fight.
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