OOTS #1202 - The Discussion Thread

[factotum]

Pilots do. People who ride flying mounts might be like pilots in that regard. Which is all I was trying to say about Oona.

Pilots look up because the skies are a busy place and there might well be other aircraft up there. People riding flying mounts in a quasi-mediaeval setting (albeit one with airships) probably aren't going to be expecting that so much.

[Snails]

I haven't watched it in about that much time either, but IIRC, Danny either pretended to be a good guy over the summer to bag Sandy, or that's his real persona and he puts on a front for his friends. Then we spend the whole film with Danny assuring his friends he is still cool, while trying to convince Sandy he is better that way. Then, at the very end, he changes a bit to match what Sandy wants, it turns out she changed to be like him, so he abandons his change and they both ride into the sunset in the car that defines his "cool rebel" personality.

It is, in short, a prototypical American film. But it does have catchy tunes and since it is a musical, that is all that really matters. Like with opera before it, the plot is mostly incidental. It'd be like complaining about the lack of depth and terrible message of The Magic Flute or The Barber of Seville or Carmen. You'd be kinda missing the point.

Impressive comment there, for being so succinct and on the mark.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Impressive comment there, for being so succinct and on the mark.

Thank you. I very much appreciate your words. I tend to aim for succinct and often feel I horribly missed the target, so it is a genuine pleasure to hear.

Grey Wolf

[bunsen_h]

Pilots look up because the skies are a busy place and there might well be other aircraft up there. People riding flying mounts in a quasi-mediaeval setting (albeit one with airships) probably aren't going to be expecting that so much.

I dunno. Someone who has to fly regularly, exposed on a flying mount, has better reason than most to keep a weather eye open. They don't have to be as concerned about solid objects in their airspace, but weather affects them more, compared to a modern pilot.

[Fyraltari]

Pilots do. People who ride flying mounts might be like pilots in that regard. Which is all I was trying to say about Oona.

But do they do that on the ground?

[Emperor Time]

It's cute that Blackwing wants the potion seller to give them a discount on potions instead of the regular price. Whereas Haley wonders why the potion seller isn't selling the potions for highway prices instead.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

But do they do that on the ground?

Especially if she's spending the day with Xykon and RC exploring a cave system. I mean, it might not be the case, but the OotS might be moving now because they know TE is occupied.

Grey Wolf

[Fyraltari]

Especially if she's spending the day with Xykon and RC exploring a cave system. I mean, it might not be the case, but the OotS might be moving now because they know TE is occupied.

Grey Wolf

Are you sure you meant to quote me?

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Are you sure you meant to quote me?

Yes, I'm fairly certain that I was suggesting that Oona is not just currently land-bound, but positively underground, thus reinforcing your point.

Grey Wolf

[Ghosty]

Pilots look up because the skies are a busy place and there might well be other aircraft up there. People riding flying mounts in a quasi-mediaeval setting (albeit one with airships) probably aren't going to be expecting that so much.

I don't know if it's that so much as flight training beats into you a healthy respect for, and therefore interest in, the weather. You are very small, and the wind and clouds can be very, very great. Boaters are often the same way.

There can be zero traffic overhead, and I'll still look at the clouds, try to figure what the weather's likely do soon, do I need to take it into account for future plans, and so on. Plus, clouds are often really pretty. Especially from other angles besides underneath.

It's just a habit you get into. I thought Oona might have too. (Though Greyview wouldn't, because what would be the point? The clouds will rain on you whether you look at them or not, and if they're not raining right now? They will be soon.)

[Fyraltari]

Yes, I'm fairly certain that I was suggesting that Oona is not just currently land-bound, but positively underground, thus reinforcing your point.

Grey Wolf

I wasn’t making that point (or any really) but okay.

[Peelee]

I wasn’t making that point (or any really) but okay.

So would you say you were just hanging a round?

[bunsen_h]

Though Greyview wouldn't, because what would be the point? The clouds will rain on you whether you look at them or not, and if they're not raining right now? They will be soon.

The rain it raineth on the just
And also on the unjust fella;
But chiefly on the just, because
The unjust hath the just’s umbrella.

-- Charles Bowen, Baron Bowen

[The_Weirdo]

The rain it raineth on the just
And also on the unjust fella;
But chiefly on the just, because
The unjust hath the just’s umbrella.

-- Charles Bowen, Baron Bowen

Raaaaaaaaainn! I don't mind!

Also, great point you just made in your last post, Fyraltari.

Also also, nice and symptomatic how Andromeda is on the background. Basically, giving the captain she mutinied against for zero reason a wide berth.

[F.Harr]

Hey! This is different from the last time they wind-walked. And it's better! Keep it up!

Haley likes to fly. And Elan. And is just a little unsanitary. :)

I like Belkar arguing over Skoch and Smidge. :)

[WombleofDarknes]

I don't know if this has been mentioned or not: but is it my imagination or does the crazy cloud trail look a little like the classic logo of the Prog rock band Yes?

[Rogar Demonblud]

Not to my eyes, although I may be misremembering since it's been a few decades since I've seen the logo anywhere.

[Whispri]

i'm sad he didn't label this one as 1201 for the lulz.

I'm sad about that too. Life can be harsh and cruel sometimes.

[littlebum2002]

It would seem odd to me for the forum to censor language that was used in the comic itself.

I found it! I remembered the word that was in the comics but censored in the forums! I'm not gonna type it but it's in 662

[Schroeswald]

I found it! I remembered the word that was in the comics but censored in the forums! I'm not gonna type it but it's in 662

I figured it out with some testing and found it a bit weird, because its a derivative of a word that one might expect to be censored and is perfectly fine to say in the forums and is also found in this very comic.

[Peelee]

I'm deliberately keeping this in black text, as I reasoned it out years ago and have not actually confirmed it with anyone:

The website has four areas - News, Comics, Forum, and Shop. The Forum Rules seem to only apply to one area - the Forum. Which, conveniently enough, is the only place where anyone who is not Forum Staff can post.

[KorvinStarmast]

The website has four areas - News, Comics, Forum, and Shop. The Forum Rules seem to only apply to one area - the Forum. Which, conveniently enough, is the only place where anyone who is not Forum Staff can post.

Does this mean that if someone flames the Shop, it's OK?

[Peelee]

Does this mean that if someone flames the Shop, it's OK?

Well, like I said, I'm keeping this in blacktext because I'm talking as regular ol' Peelee sharing a personal theory I came up with years ago. And I don't even know how one would even begin to flame the shop. Now, all that being said, I do feel pretty safe in making one particular official pronouncement...

The Mod on the Silver Mountain: Please do not attempt to break The Giant's website.

[littlebum2002]

I'm deliberately keeping this in black text, as I reasoned it out years ago and have not actually confirmed it with anyone:

The website has four areas - News, Comics, Forum, and Shop. The Forum Rules seem to only apply to one area - the Forum. Which, conveniently enough, is the only place where anyone who is not Forum Staff can post.

Well this forum was not created by scratch. It was created by vBulletin, and the devs simply modified it to fit their own needs. That's how the vast majority of online forums work.

So I'm assuming that the dictionary used to determine what words should be censored was also created by vBulletin, and the Giant decided that he did not want to have to check this dictionary every time he used a bad word in the comic to make sure it can also be used on the forum. Which isn't a bad decision: when Rich uses a divisive word like that, he is 100% in control of the context in which that word is used, but if he allows everyone on his forum to use it, then there is an extremely large probability that it will eventually be used to hurt others.

[KorvinStarmast]

The Mod on the Silver Mountain: Please do not attempt to break The Giant's website.

I was attempting to make a joke, and yeah, I'll not quit my day job.

[Fyraltari]

I was attempting to make a joke, and yeah, I'll not quit my day job.

Ah well, if you hadn't beaten me to it, I would have made that joke.

[Peelee]

I was attempting to make a joke, and yeah, I'll not quit my day job.

I realize, but I did not want anyone to take it as a challenge.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

It would seem odd to me for the forum to censor language that was used in the comic itself.

The way I see it, Rich can be trusted to know were the line is, but no-one would trust every single forum member to know that, or else we wouldn't need Mods. Besides, he pays the bill. He can swear in his own house if he wants to.

More importantly, though, you have to remember that the filter is not really a censor, more like a first line of defence

Sheriff: We know that the filter is over- and under-inclusive. I'm sure we've acknowledged that before in Board Issues. [...] The filter is not there to govern what you post, it's there to prevent the appearance of certain words on the forum. By that I mean, the filter isn't moderation of your conduct - we do that through Warnings/Infractions. What the filter does is shield other posters from seeing your profanities or whatever. Posters should govern their own conduct, as we often say, erring on the side of caution.

(Is in Red Mod Voice in the original)

Grey Wolf