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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    I'd be disappointed and concerned if I ever had any hope or good expectations for this adaptation.
    I had hope. The hope involved friends, booze, and a series just slightly better than the movie to make it So Bad It's Good.

    But considering that 'broader appeal' is probably that brought us 'Artemis Fowl the Well Intentioned Surfer Kid' I'm probably just going to write it off. Not like the series is likely going to last compared to the cartoon anyway.
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    That the original creators of the show pulled out definitely isn't a good sign, especially since this show was billed as being a relatively-faithful live-action adaptation of the original.

    Wonder what changes Netflix is planning on making to "appeal to a wider audience" or whatnot. Hopefully the massive uptick of appreciation for the original show since it came to Netflix will dissuade them from anything too radical.
    It is possible that Netflix wants no changes and the guys wanted some (as they had already produced the show without changes once before).
    i.e This show, but in live action - that is it that is the mandate, no scene changed, no dialogue changed, no nothing changed - just live action.
    Which might be fairly boring if you had already made that show.

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    ...but there is one thing it's got going for it: it can't be any worse than the movie.
    Things can always get worse - worse is one of those things where you can always find new levels of it if you are willing to put in the effort and try.

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    Things can always get worse - worse is one of those things where you can always find new levels of it if you are willing to put in the effort and try.
    I mean, I think the only way the adaptation can get worse than the movie is if they kill off the entire cast in the first five minutes, and then the rest of the show is Ozai personally saying "F*** you" to each and every fan of the show by name. Like, he just pulls up a list on his phone and spends the next 30 episodes going "F*** you, Steve from Wichita. F*** you, Mary from Sheboygan."

    On the other hand, that might still be more entertaining than the movie...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    I mean, I think the only way the adaptation can get worse than the movie is if they kill off the entire cast in the first five minutes, and then the rest of the show is Ozai personally saying "F*** you" to each and every fan of the show by name. Like, he just pulls up a list on his phone and spends the next 30 episodes going "F*** you, Steve from Wichita. F*** you, Mary from Sheboygan."

    On the other hand, that might still be more entertaining than the movie...
    No, worse than the movie would be the seven hour script, with the exact same actors, bit Iroh has been written out, and a Suki/Sokka/Yue cuddles scene added in.
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    I expect that the adaptation might well be very high-quality in terms of special effects, budget, costumes and acting, but that it will be devoid of anything that made the original what it was. And the first part isn't a guarantee. Didn't Netflix's Iron Fist have a notoriously crappy fight choreography despite the main character's power being super kung-fu?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    So I now have zero faith in that show, but there is one thing it's got going for it: it can't be any worse than the movie.
    Why would you challenge them like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    I expect that the adaptation might well be very high-quality in terms of special effects, budget, costumes and acting, but that it will be devoid of anything that made the original what it was. And the first part isn't a guarantee. Didn't Netflix's Iron Fist have a notoriously crappy fight choreography despite the main character's power being super kung-fu?
    That's because Finn Jones basically went from his previous series to Iron Fist without several months for conditioning, training and practice. You can see things improve during the series, as he starts to catch up. Basically, NetFlix screwed up by deciding to rush the release schedule.

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    Why would you challenge them like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymouswizard View Post
    But considering that 'broader appeal' is probably that brought us 'Artemis Fowl the Well Intentioned Surfer Kid' I'm probably just going to write it off. Not like the series is likely going to last compared to the cartoon anyway.
    ...glad I missed that, then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    I mean, I think the only way the adaptation can get worse than the movie is if they kill off the entire cast in the first five minutes, and then the rest of the show is Ozai personally saying "F*** you" to each and every fan of the show by name. Like, he just pulls up a list on his phone and spends the next 30 episodes going "F*** you, Steve from Wichita. F*** you, Mary from Sheboygan."

    On the other hand, that might still be more entertaining than the movie...
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    A urther update: that information above was first "delivered" by a notorious sexual abuser who would know nothing about the actual real information. It's just a fake article for money.

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    A urther update: that information above was first "delivered" by a notorious sexual abuser who would know nothing about the actual real information. It's just a fake article for money.
    What information above?

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    ... okay so in my defense I'm an idiot, and thought people were talking about the article that got posted recently that allegedly detailed some of the reasons WHY the original creators backed out. My apologies.

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    And there is much rejoicing for now that Korra is on netflix people are starting to post Korra / JK Simmon memes on my twitter
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    ... okay so in my defense I'm an idiot, and thought people were talking about the article that got posted recently that allegedly detailed some of the reasons WHY the original creators backed out. My apologies.
    Do you mean Fandomwire article? I cannot find who is the author, it is credited to the fandowire staff. Admittingly it does lsit things that are plausible, Netflix wanting colorblind casting or make the show darker, edgier and sexier are popular theories why bryke bolted out of the live-action adaptation, alongside a theory it's because Netflix wants to make Zutara happen. And seeing how first photos of Netflix's The Watch series look like they turned that into gritty and sexy take on Pratchett's books, I could see them doing it to Avatar as well. Tbh seeing how much bullmanure Bryke took from netflix on korra and still didn't quit, it means it must been something serious that made them quit on Netflix show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man on Fire View Post
    Do you mean Fandomwire article? I cannot find who is the author, it is credited to the fandowire staff. Admittingly it does lsit things that are plausible, Netflix wanting colorblind casting or make the show darker, edgier and sexier are popular theories why bryke bolted out of the live-action adaptation, alongside a theory it's because Netflix wants to make Zutara happen. And seeing how first photos of Netflix's The Watch series look like they turned that into gritty and sexy take on Pratchett's books, I could see them doing it to Avatar as well. Tbh seeing how much bullmanure Bryke took from netflix on korra and still didn't quit, it means it must been something serious that made them quit on Netflix show.
    That is what I mean, and that article and video were made by Andy Signore, a former member of Screen Junkies who was excised for being a sexual harasser and such. FandomWire is also a known clickbait site that makes a lot of wild claims, inaccurate, and downright false claims.
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    Netflix said that you must make Zutara canon, and the show creators said no. Let the shipping wars commence!

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    Hol' up. They're making a Watch series? Now there's a bloody challenge. I thought Pratchett was unfilmable before Good Omens, and honestly, I mostly still do.

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    On the matter of "broader appeal"...

    Avatar was never that well-received by China or Japan, right? I could see a ton of changes being made if they're trying to capture those markets.

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    Netflix said that you must make Zutara canon, and the show creators said no. Let the shipping wars commence!

    If that's true, then they may actually have found a way to make it worse than the movie. Throwing in an unnecessary love triangle and more focus on the romance of 12 year olds. Worse, this kind of bad isn't even the fun to watch kind of bad.

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    Hol' up. They're making a Watch series? Now there's a bloody challenge. I thought Pratchett was unfilmable before Good Omens, and honestly, I mostly still do.
    There are several good live action Discworld adaptations. Hogfather is especially good.

    The Watch series does not seem as though it will join their company.
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    Hol' up. They're making a Watch series? Now there's a bloody challenge. I thought Pratchett was unfilmable before Good Omens, and honestly, I mostly still do.
    Well, they're making a series with characters that share names with the Watch. The promo material released regarding it so far does not inspire confidence that the actual show will have much else in common with the theoretical source at all - it's looking like 'loosely inspired by' territory.

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    Don't mind me. Just crying while watching Iroh's tale in Tales of Ba Sing Se.
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    Don't mind me. Just crying while watching Iroh's tale in Tales of Ba Sing Se.
    Oh jeez that was the saddest.

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    Oh jeez that was the saddest.

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    Y'know. Jojo Rabbit was not a movie I thought was going to be good. But it was surprisingly good.
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    Korra was weird, it took 3 whole seasons for the protagonist to show up!

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    Just started Korra. Two episodes in, so they're still introducing the show. I find myself not bothered the world is so modern in comparison to Avatar's fantasy mysticism. I suppose the overall story is more important to me than the world's mythology. I understand how someone who was really into the Bending mythology would be upset with what Legend of Korra does. It's definitely not the same show. I do like Avatar, but it doesn't have mythic status to me to be bothered by a change in atmosphere. I compare that to Star Trek where I do care such that I don't like and won't watch the new movies nor Picard nor Discovery. I like both brothers so far. Mako is supposed to be the obstructionist, but he's not really being a jerk at least so far. It's a good thing for me to like the main characters. Leave my dislike for the villains whom I want to root against.

    It's an obvious move, but since it is a kids' show the irony of Korra struggling with Air Bending works. I wonder if we ever do find out about Zuko's mother, the Avatar cliffhanger mentioned in the first episode but interrupted. So far so good I'm liking the show. I hope I continue to do so.
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    It's an obvious move, but since it is a kids' show the irony of Korra struggling with Air Bending works. I wonder if we ever do find out about Zuko's mother, the Avatar cliffhanger mentioned in the first episode but interrupted.
    Not in Korra. Side materials covered Zuko's mother before Korra was ever made.
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    The comics are really good, I would have loved to see them animated.

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    Avatar: The Last Airbender is now accessible for blind audiences on Netflix with audio descriptions... pass it on 😎
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