OOTS #1259 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Aelyn]

I may identify a little too closely with Minrah here...

[Peelee]

I love that they don't need to worry about Elan during war councils because he also doesn't want to be involved.

[RMS Oceanic]

Unstructured alliance building is Elan's forte.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

Now if only every meeting was as much fun as Elan and Sunny will have.

[Psyren]

Finally, back on track!

And Lien and O-Chul, please talk more about MitD on-camera dammit.

I love that they don't need to worry about Elan during war councils because he also doesn't want to be involved.

I'm more worried that Belkar now wants to be

[Metastachydium]

New theory, based on her line from the last panel: Haley is really just V disguised as a human (whereas V is really just V not disguised as a human.)

[dancrilis]

I don't know if getting rid of the guy who knows narrative structure in a structured narrative is the best idea frankly - he could at least tell them that they need to do all their planning off panel or else the plan is likely to fail.

[Precure]

Haley is pretty much done with Elan at this point.

[internisus]

"an unstructured alliance-strengthening exercise"

I love it. Brilliant.

Roy's positivity is refreshing, too!

[Frozenstep]

Jokes on all of you, Elan's the one getting out a big meeting that could have just been an email. Who's the real smart one now, huh!?

[Metastachydium]

I don't know if getting rid of the guy who knows narrative structure in a structured narrative is the best idea frankly - he could at least tell them that they need to do all their planning off panel or else the plan is likely to fail.

I'd argue that based on the empirical evidence at his disposal, Roy would probably dismiss that concern (but, perhaps, not with a comment containing the phrase "dull efficiency" this time around).

[hamishspence]

I love Haley's use of managerspeak here.

[MoonCat]

So how many of us just had a newly-contextualised flashback to their childhoods right along with Minrah?

[Fyraltari]

Jokes on all of you, Elan's the one getting out a big meeting that could have just been an email. Who's the real smart one now, huh!?

I know the joke but this is precisely the kind of meeting that couldn't have been an email.

[Doug Lampert]

I know the joke but this is precisely the kind of meeting that couldn't have been an email.

There actually are meetings that serve a useful purpose and where the best method is to get everyone to sit around the same table at the same time.

It's just that we're so used to the other kind that most people don't expect that.

[elros]

I would not thought Minrah would need to distracted by counting buttons. She is so active and strong willed that I think she would have been training with the soldiers and daring anyone to tell her not to!

[Resileaf]

Haley is pretty much done with Elan at this point.

Done? Hardly, she just knows her man is not the 'sit-down-at-a-meeting' type.

[Frozenstep]

I would not thought Minrah would need to distracted by counting buttons. She is so active and strong willed that I think she would have been training with the soldiers and daring anyone to tell her not to!

That's exactly why she needed be distracted with a task, so Nana could finish cooking or something without Minrah leaving line of sight.

[Duncun]

Sounds like Sirini is still cautiously pessimistic. She is ok with planning to plan, but still is unsure that the plan will work if implemented.

[dmc91356]

I tend to read the strip titles first, and could not figure out what was going on with that until the end. Well played.

[Vikenlugaid]

Yeah Elan is adorable but i want to listen to important plot!!

[KorvinStarmast]

Haley is pretty much done with Elan at this point.

Nope. Seems to me that she's acting like his wife aka telling him what to do.

I may identify a little too closely with Minrah here...

That line was beautifully delivered.

I love that they don't need to worry about Elan during war councils because he also doesn't want to be involved.

Never invite to a meeting someone who doesn't want to be there and whose input / disruption will not be needed. IME, a lot of people get dragged into meetings who can be better employed (for that time period) elsewhere.

Done? Hardly, she just knows her man is not the 'sit-down-at-a-meeting' type.

Yes she does.

I liked Roy's "We got knocked off track so many times that we're all the way back on track"

[Reboot]

This is really infantilising Elan, in a way which is particularly bad coming from his girlfriend & life partner...

[Fyraltari]

Nope. Seems to me that she's acting like his wife aka telling him what to do.

Honestly, in that line she reads more like a mom than like a wife.

[Bardiche]

I love Haley's use of managerspeak here.

Not surprising - all Rogues know how to speak Thieves' Cant! ;-)

[Hiro Quester]

I sooooo much want to know the plan, but recognize that it’s better for story advancement, and for success, if the planning to make a plan meeting happens off-panel.

So I’m hoping for a cut to Team Evil next, followed by the execution of said plan.

[Shining Wrath]

You know, I think Haley and Serini are starting to see eye to eye. Rogue sisterhood advances!

Roy's point is well taken; the Order is in their strongest position relative to Team Evil ever. Yes I know Xykon's a epic sorcerer lich; I also know he doesn't have the HP to take everyone on Team Order hitting him with a good shot in one round. V's best move might be to spam Dispel Magic and keeping stripping away his defensive buffs; Roy focuses on keeping him from casting; Haley and Belkar go for max damage, while O Chul Smites Evil with enthusiasm, and the clerics buff / heal / attack as situation demands. He'd be gone in a couple of rounds, and he's not teleporting away if Roy can disrupt (or V / Durkon can counterspell).

For grins, Blackwing can try to grab any shiny objects Xykon might be carrying.

[KorvinStarmast]

This is really infantilising Elan, in a way which is particularly bad coming from his girlfriend & life partner...

Once one gets married, that sort of thing happens more often, not less.

So I’m hoping for a cut to Team Evil next, followed by the execution of said plan.

I am hoping for a cut to the IFCC, but I doubt I'll get what I want. A cut to Team Evil is about due.

[hagnat]

V's best move might be to spam Dispel Magic and keeping stripping away his defensive buffs; Roy focuses on keeping him from casting

V should learn from one of his lowest moments, the fight against the Black Dragon on Tiny Island.
Xykon is an impressive foe. Without his magic spells and artifacts, however, he is nothing more than a skeleton with some special abilities.