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2007-11-01, 04:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Monsters that focus on Archery?
I've npticed that a relatively small amount of monsters focus on ranged attacks, and virtually none on using actual projectile weapons like bows. I wonder if that's saying anything about projectile weapons being underpowered without a ridiculous amount of splatbook and feats to back it up?
Can you guys think of any monsters that mainly rely on ranged physical attacks?
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2007-11-01, 04:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Arrow Demon. Medusa. Manticore. Basilisk. Cockatrice.
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2007-11-01, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Monsters that focus on Archery?
NPC Elves, maybe?
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2007-11-01, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Cockatrice? Don't they petrify on a melee peck?
Other options:
Devil -> Erinyes, Harpy (they're statted as using clubs, but their 'advanced' version is a ranged character. It shouldn't take much to give a basic harpy a bow), most humanoids have the option of melee or ranged.
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2007-11-01, 04:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Giants? Boulders are pretty nice damage when they hit.
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2007-11-01, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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The pixie, grig, thorn, nixie, they have bows and sneak attack dice or sleep arrows for sniping. The pixie can actually use Improved Invisibility too. The redcaps have an eldritch stone ability.
The harpy has an entry for a harpy archer. The flying playable race from RoTW, uhh I can't recall what they are called, lolz, they have a racial familiarity with those foot bows.
Giants specialise in hurling rocks and even get a prestige class for it.My mother says: those on fire should roll.
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2007-11-01, 04:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Much like players, most intelligent foes in my campaigns have some sort of ranged weapon or ranged units, but few (if any) rely on them exclusively.
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2007-11-01, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-11-01, 04:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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In general, monsters tend to rely on melee because they're, well, monsters. Most monsters are lacking either in intelligence (to create a projectile weapon) or opposable thumbs (with which to use a projectile weapon). A couple might be able to shoot spikes, or something. But intelligent, five-fingered monsters are in the minority.
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2007-11-01, 05:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Easy ranged devastator (if you use the 'Complete' splat books, specifically, Complete Adventurer):
Take a hill giant (or reasonable faccimile), remove improved bullrush, weapon focus (greatclub) and improved sunder feats, and replace with quick draw, weapon focus (rock) and power throw (brutal throw? it's the one that lets you use STR instead of DEX when using thrown weapons) feats. Now his full attack block looks like:
Greatclub +15/+10 melee (2d8+10) or 2 slams +15 melee (1d4+7) or rock +16/+11 ranged (2d6+7) <-- and this is from 120 feet away.
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2007-11-01, 05:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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What is a rock's range increment? Is it an improvised weapon?
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2007-11-01, 05:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Marrash. They are fun because they turn people into more Marrash..es...
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2007-11-01, 05:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-11-01, 05:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Arrowhawks have their ranged electricity touch. That kinda counts for something. The Solar works too, with its Slaying Arrows.
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2007-11-01, 05:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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How 'bout Drow? I suppose they don't exactly count as monsters, but they've got those sleep arrows that are always good for a larf... Easy to give them class levels, easy to make Drow societies.
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2007-11-01, 06:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Nobody's mentioned the Beholder yet? It's not a weapon, but those eye rays do use attack rolls.
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2007-11-01, 09:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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The Solar is probably the most powerful archer monster in core. It's got very high AB, a large-sized composite longbow (5), and slaying arrows.
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2007-11-02, 01:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm personally surprised that fewer people give intelligent humanoids bows/crossbows, especially the cowardly ones like goblins that have poor Str scores but decent Dex scores, where using ranged attacks is more competitive in combat as well as better in character.
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2007-11-02, 02:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-11-02, 06:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-11-02, 12:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sometimes I wonder what'd be better and more interesting challenges at high levels: Enemy adventuring parties (mostly humanoids) with class levels or the standard monsters.
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2007-11-02, 12:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-11-02, 12:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Fax already mentioned it, but Arrow Demons are built around the bow. They all have a magical composite bow, carry Dr-piercing arrows, can fire 2 Composite Bows at a time, and are just altogether awesome. Drow and other elves with levels in Ranger fare well when it comes to Ranged Combat.
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2007-11-02, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh and Thayvian golems
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2007-11-02, 12:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Which MM is Arrow Demon from?
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2007-11-02, 12:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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*Flashback* Oh, God... kobolds! Darts, arrows, spears, rocks, boiling oil, acid, flaming arrows, poisoned arrows, arrows covered in excrement. They shoot them from tunnels and from murder holes in the ceiling. They shoot them from around corners and from behind barricades. You chase after them, but they hide in their little tunnels where only the halfling can follow. But if you send the halfling in after them, he gets eaten, eaten like the pack mules, eaten like the retainers guarding the pack mules. The wizard is no use; he just fried the cleric with a badly placed fireball. The fighter is no use; he can barely move encumbered as he is. The thief... Where is the thief? Is he hiding or did he get picked off in the last chamber? Well, we're not going back to check. Not through that barrage again.
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2007-11-02, 12:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-11-02, 12:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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mm3 page 34 actually for arrow demon
EDIT: OMG, I corrected Fax!Last edited by cupkeyk; 2007-11-02 at 12:54 PM.
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2007-11-02, 01:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Arrow Demon: MM3
Erinyes: MM
Harpy Archer: MM
Stone Giants (lobbing rocks)
To name a few.