Goblins XVIII: Being yourself can be dangerous

[Daywalker1983]

I used to give Ellipsis money, I even knew it was getting used for various home things because she was honest about what she needed it for whether it was for the comic or just **** she needed. Not anymore, on both counts.

Why did you give her money?

[Anonymouswizard]

I have a Hard time seeing her as an artist nowadays. She has become an Online personality giving away nude pictures on her second Twitter while being years to late to Blog about it on geocities. I guess we will soon See an Onlyfans Pop up and her attention seeking has come full circle.

An OnlyFans seems too honest. Maybe a GoFundMe for a new router where she uploads a photo with one less item of clothing every milestone.

Also third Twitter, you can now get Elli nudes without any danger of being interrupted by her side project.

[Daywalker1983]

An OnlyFans seems too honest. Maybe a GoFundMe for a new router where she uploads a photo with one less item of clothing every milestone.

Also third Twitter, you can now get Elli nudes without any danger of being interrupted by her side project.

I just saw that there is a third twitter already, or is that what you were getting at?

[Anonymouswizard]

I just saw that there is a third twitter already, or is that what you were getting at?

Of course there's a third Twitter already, it's the only one I follow. It has more meaningful updates than her secondary business (i.e. the boobs outnumber the strips).

[Divayth Fyr]

So, seeing gow the Gofundme is now at 9,721 CAD (aka well over double what was needed for the tablet), any ideas what kind of crisis will prevent the money from going to tablet this time?

[Anteros]

I honestly just have a hard time even caring at this point. Anyone stupid enough to still give her money at this point deserves to have their money stolen anyway.

[Dame_Mechanus]

Of course there's a third Twitter already, it's the only one I follow. It has more meaningful updates than her secondary business (i.e. the boobs outnumber the strips).

I didn't know there was a third Twitter and now I'm even sadder than before.

Well, not sad, precisely. More like disappointed. Predictably disappointed.

[Vinyadan]

An OnlyFans seems too honest.

I don't think OnlyFans is a realistic option because of the oversharing. The idea is that you have to keep the goods hidden behind a paywall, and oversharing goes in the opposite direction. The case in which it might work is if Twitter has some restrictive policy on its content that would need the images to be hosted on another service, but then it would be easier to just go to reddit.

EDIT: By the way, can you people read posts from Twitter accounts without logging in? I used to be able to read posts, but now I can't, as I scroll I just get a window asking me to log in (this also is the case for big public personalities like JK Rowling).

[Keltest]

I don't think OnlyFans is a realistic option because of the oversharing. The idea is that you have to keep the goods hidden behind a paywall, and oversharing goes in the opposite direction. The case in which it might work is if Twitter has some restrictive policy on its content that would need the images to be hosted on another service, but then it would be easier to just go to reddit.

EDIT: By the way, can you people read posts from Twitter accounts without logging in? I used to be able to read posts, but now I can't, as I scroll I just get a window asking me to log in (this also is the case for big public personalities like JK Rowling).

No, I think twitter just changed its policy. I can get like 2 in before it tries to convince me to sign up. Which is exceptionally annoying given that some people use twitter to broadcast actual news stuff sometimes.

[Gez]

No, I think twitter just changed its policy. I can get like 2 in before it tries to convince me to sign up. Which is exceptionally annoying given that some people use twitter to broadcast actual news stuff sometimes.

If you're on a computer, you can use "inspect element" or however it's called in your browser to just delete the blocking sign up element. That's what I do because I refuse to sign up for Twitter.

[Keltest]

If you're on a computer, you can use "inspect element" or however it's called in your browser to just delete the blocking sign up element. That's what I do because I refuse to sign up for Twitter.

oh really? thanks, thats really nice to know.

[tomaO2]

I took a quick look at the latest page. As soon as I started reading Multiverse of Madness, I started skipping the dialogue. Didn't Elli say that these are real people, and that they aren't being played by players? I thought that was the new meta of the world, that we would be ignoring all evidence that players are a real thing.

Even if I ignore that though, this update is just utterly useless filler. EDIT: and I say this as a person that watched the movie, and actually liked it. I'm the target for these jokes, but it just took me right out of the comic.

Also, as in terms of art, I will never forgive making the goblins into a bunch of baby faces.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EllipsisG...84377148329984

Of course she didnt get a tablet. Of course there is a son Story and a promise for faster Updates... And people comforting her, saying it's okay.

Huh. She posted that on her buisness account only. I generally haven't been reading that as I was under the assumption that anything important posted there would also be posted on the trans account. Oh well, live and learn.

EDIT: By the way, can you people read posts from Twitter accounts without logging in? I used to be able to read posts, but now I can't, as I scroll I just get a window asking me to log in (this also is the case for big public personalities like JK Rowling).

There are some chrome extensions that can take care of this issue. I was using Brave but it seems like it got disabled by Chrome. I just downloaded "Breakthrough Twitter Login Wall" and that seems to also be stopping the log in requirement.

Yeah, at this point I'm kind of not interested in the reasons. The patron is apparently charging per page rather than per month and so, let's be honest, a faster update schedule in the first place would have given them the money for all of this. At this point I'm just waiting for the second GoFundMe when her tablet finally does and updates stop for at least six months.

You don't need a second go fund me when the first one is still active, MONTHS after the goal was reached. All that needed to happen was a little sob story, a link for the go fund me again, and donations just come rolling in. Mainly one or two donators that shell out the majority of the money needed. There is a small group that is very willing to shell out the big bucks for whatever donation drive Elli has going.

Interestestingly, I think it's the same person that donated the big bucks both times. We got an anonymous donator that gave 1,300$ twice. Once when this whole thing started, and again after the plea for more money.

Did she ever get the laser hair removal? I don't care about her transition beyond 'I know people gave her money for this, did she just spend it on a new oven?' but it would still be nice to know.

Laser hair removal? Which one was that, again? Wait a minute, I wrote down all her Go Fund Me drives...

1. Help Elli Get A New Drawing Tablet​. 9,700 raised. Created May 29, 2022. (open)
--Wow, that is a LOT of money raised. Ongoing, money raised was spent on other things, which caused a second round of fundraising.

2. Rescue My Friend June 4,076 raised. Created Jan , 2022. (closed)
--We got one update on this. Apperently, the money was used as intended.


3. Help Elli Qualify For Bottom Surgery 5,918 raised. Created Nov 20, 2021. (closed)
--This must be the laser surgery one. Let me look this up...
--Information deleted when campaign closes. Right, forgot about that. Checking Archive.org. One capture. Thank you, whomever did that.
--https://web.archive.org/web/20211202012150/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-elli-qualify-for-bottom-surgery

--Yep. That's the one. I am pretty sure Elli never gave any public updates on this donation drive. I don't recall her talking about getting bottom surgery though, so... who knows? She also stated that she wanted to get voice surgery awhile back, which was the stated reason she did more frequent updates for a year or so. As far as anyone knows, she never got that surgery either. Wonder what she spent the money on?

--Honestly, I think it's amazing that Elli has managed to live while working so little. She spent years doing almost nothing, where did she get the money to keep living?

4. Elli's Transition Surgery $21,138 CAD raised. Created Oct 17, 2019 (closed)
--Elli never gave an official announcement on this, but did do a lot of bragging, and posted photos on her trans account, so we know she got this done.

[Keltest]

As far as where the money goes, I kind of doubt that the people who donate are actually specifically invested in seeing a specific material return on their investment so much as just helping Elli out generally. In which case, good for them for being charitable I guess? It'd not like they're buying a book or something.

We're I the kind of person with a pet charity project and that sort of disposable income, I can't honestly say I would be more than mildly annoyed, at worst, if my donation was spent on a different emergency than the specific one I was reacting to.

[Dragonus45]

Why did you give her money?

Because I liked the content, I liked Eli and felt sympathetic about a lot of her problems, and at various times I could afford to toss ten or fifteen bucks over and rewards used to be promised and delivered on often enough I didn't feel cheated. I know in a lot of ways the first kickstarter was her being taken advantage of to a degree as much as her fans but it's still feels like the turning point where she realized she didn't need to deliver and fans really would just keep defending her even when nothing delivered.

[JadedDM]

If you're on a computer, you can use "inspect element" or however it's called in your browser to just delete the blocking sign up element. That's what I do because I refuse to sign up for Twitter.

A trick I learned is that when the pop-up appears, click on 'log in.' Then when it asks for your login, 'x' out of it. Then you can resume normal scrolling again. This works on PC and on mobile.

[SaintRidley]

Honestly, the third twitter account is probably the best content Ellie has produced in years. At least it's honest about what it is, it seems to actually make her happy, and the pics are good (they certainly make me hopeful for the results of my own transition). Bonus: the tweets aren't a slog of misery porn with bad pacing and meandering plotlines. They're just regular nudes and don't even qualify as porn of any kind.

Someone mentioned an OnlyFans might be too honest for her, and that may be. But even so, I feel like if she had the slightest mind for proper promotion and business about it, she would probably make more compelling and lucrative content if she abandoned the comic and went all in there. It might be better for her mental health too, given the pressure the comic has exerted in that area historically.

[Keltest]

Honestly, the third twitter account is probably the best content Ellie has produced in years. At least it's honest about what it is, it seems to actually make her happy, and the pics are good (they certainly make me hopeful for the results of my own transition). Bonus: the tweets aren't a slog of misery porn with bad pacing and meandering plotlines. They're just regular nudes and don't even qualify as porn of any kind.

Someone mentioned an OnlyFans might be too honest for her, and that may be. But even so, I feel like if she had the slightest mind for proper promotion and business about it, she would probably make more compelling and lucrative content if she abandoned the comic and went all in there. It might be better for her mental health too, given the pressure the comic has exerted in that area historically.

I suspect that as soon as it became a job, her enthusiasm for it would drop sharply. Which is fair, nobody wants to do their fun on someone else's schedule. But I think she just doesn't have a strong work ethic, frankly. She does it when she's cornered or when she has total freedom to ignore it if she wants, and anything in between just doesn't motivate her.

[Willie the Duck]

As far as where the money goes, I kind of doubt that the people who donate are actually specifically invested in seeing a specific material return on their investment so much as just helping Elli out generally. In which case, good for them for being charitable I guess? It'd not like they're buying a book or something.

We're I the kind of person with a pet charity project and that sort of disposable income, I can't honestly say I would be more than mildly annoyed, at worst, if my donation was spent on a different emergency than the specific one I was reacting to.

I would agree. I have income in excess of my needs, and have given to causes large and small, including some struggling artist and the like. Even when supposedly buying art or the like, it isn't the artwork itself, and the goal is getting them back on their feet, not a specific emergency.

That said, I'm pretty careful about these things, because in a lot of these cases, the individual in question are stuck in a chaotic life and will always have another emergency. In many cases, I think it would be better if things fell further apart a bit, and some reassessment/adjusting to a new reality might occur. I have not followed the ups and downs of Elli's personal life* to the point where I can pass judgement on whether that's the case here.
*I have people I know face to face whom I can spend my money on before I provide charity-patronage to webcomic artists.

[sihnfahl]

I don't recall her talking about getting bottom surgery though, so... who knows?

Posted back in February that the wait list for the surgery by a reputable surgeon is long, and they're still waiting. COVID restrictions on voluntary surgical procedures probably lengthened things.

[Divayth Fyr]

Surprisingly it seems Ellie did get a new tablet. One of her posts included an... amusing line.

The ancient tablet that I'm using now, is slowing me down too much. I couldn't wait any longer.

Yeah, I'm sure the tablet was to blame...

[Keltest]

Surprisingly it seems Ellie did get a new tablet. One of her posts included an... amusing line.



Yeah, I'm sure the tablet was to blame...

In fairness, if working with the tablet was a slog, that would certainly exasperate any motivation issues.

[Kish]

And in fairness, twelve years old does make a tablet pretty ancient.

Not that she needed a $4500 tablet, a claim that continues to boggle me, if possible even more so given that she is provably able to do her work on a twelve-year-old tablet.

[Anteros]

In fairness, if working with the tablet was a slog, that would certainly exasperate any motivation issues.

You could quite literally carve comics into stone with a rock faster than she updates.

[Anonymouswizard]

You could quite literally carve comics into stone with a rock faster than she updates.

Cave Comics really jumped the shark when they switched to blowing paint out of a bone.

But yeah, even if the tablet is a decade old, I'm still putting the blame on Elli for not replacing it 5+ years ago. I get the desire to get the most out of expensive tech, but but there comes a point where programs become too resource intensive for it.

[Divayth Fyr]

Not that she needed a $4500 tablet, a claim that continues to boggle me, if possible even more so given that she is provably able to do her work on a twelve-year-old tablet.

Actually, the tablet is under 4k, since there is also a stand, and that alone costs almost 500$ USD (and IIRC, the 4,5k figure was for CAD). Of course the cynical part of me wonders whether it was strictly neccessary (and the only available option) or just a way to push even more of her expenses on others...

In fairness, if working with the tablet was a slog, that would certainly exasperate any motivation issues.

Which is fair, but at the same time, this is kinda her job. Good luck procrastinating this much anywhere else with the excuse "I'm not too motivated" ;P

[Keltest]

Which is fair, but at the same time, this is kinda her job. Good luck procrastinating this much anywhere else with the excuse "I'm not too motivated" ;P

Benefits of self employment. The down side of course is that Elli has nobody to blame but herself when the work doesnt get done and the money doesnt come in.

[Divayth Fyr]

Benefits of self employment. The down side of course is that Elli has nobody to blame but herself when the work doesnt get done and the money doesnt come in.

Ah, but clearly the tablet was to blame, not her. Now I guess we'll move to something like wrong star alignment...

[Keltest]

Ah, but clearly the tablet was to blame, not her. Now I guess we'll move to something like wrong star alignment...

I know its a poor craftsman who blames his tools, but as somebody who also works with technology, it becomes a genuine burden to try and use equipment thats dying. If we're going to criticize elli's business practices and work ethic, we should be fair about it.

[Anonymouswizard]

Ah, but clearly the tablet was to blame, not her. Now I guess we'll move to something like wrong star alignment...

Clearly her local power station is getting on a bit.

I know its a poor craftsman who blames his tools, but as somebody who also works with technology, it becomes a genuine burden to try and use equipment thats dying. If we're going to criticize elli's business practices and work ethic, we should be fair about it.

It's not that a good craftsman can use bad tools well, it's that they've made sure their tools are fit for purpose.

So yes, I am willing to criticise Elli for not having suitable tools. There might be reasons why she didn't want to get a new tablet, but she was still using bad equipment.

[Divayth Fyr]

I know its a poor craftsman who blames his tools, but as somebody who also works with technology, it becomes a genuine burden to try and use equipment thats dying. If we're going to criticize elli's business practices and work ethic, we should be fair about it.

Part of the self-employment package - she is the one responsible for the tools she is using. If the tablet was dying for so long, she clearly should have tried to do something about it sooner.