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2020-11-02, 01:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
I can't say for sure if he is that high, as there are reasonable non-epic methods of doing some of the things he does. But at the same time it also doesn't really seem like he'd really be just level 21 or so.
Also FYI, the Nightcrawler the Ex-arch summoned with Gate is also a CR 18 monster. Dungeons that have more than one monster stronger than that, as well as many others not too far behind would be honestly pretty hard for the Order, especially considering how low-op they are.Cool elan Illithid Slayer by linkele.
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2020-11-02, 01:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
Wow, this was so good. After the excitement of Durkon's retreat, we have the Order united, working together and Elan being Elan. The heat is on, and the suspense builds.
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2020-11-02, 02:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Excellent strip!
I loved everyone's skills coming to use in the decision-making, Elan's lampshade, and I especially loved Minrah's and Belkar's exchange in the final panel!
I also can't wait to find out what both teams are going to find behind their respective doors.
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2020-11-02, 02:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
There's also Soon's gate. Not only did they end up in its presence before Team Evil did, but they were also aware of that fact.
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2020-11-02, 02:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
Looking back, I don't think I've ever had an optimized character in any RPG, ever, in my life. It just seemed like too much work.
That's how I wound up with characters like an 18th level human Wizard who specialized in Transmutation, had a proficiency with the longsword (to match the miniature I was using), and had two hirelings to load and pass him heavy crossbows during rounds when he couldn't think of a spell to cast. And also the Run feat, because, you know how many spells have a range of "Touch"? Enemies hate that. You need to be able to run away real fast the next round.Last edited by Darth Paul; 2020-11-02 at 02:50 AM.
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2020-11-02, 02:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-02, 03:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-02, 04:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
It's a shell game.
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2020-11-02, 04:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh my god! After how long? After so many years of jokes and frustration and growth we finally see Roy explicitly just ask for Elans advice and its like it was always meant to be!!!
I am squeeing in bed y'all, you got not idea!
Did durkon clue any of the rest of the order into this being an explicitly self aware world as per word of god?Last edited by Jaecp; 2020-11-02 at 04:44 AM.
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2020-11-02, 04:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-02, 04:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-02, 05:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
Knowing Xykon I'd bet he insisted the wolf do charades, because it is hilarious..
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2020-11-02, 05:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Roy that asks for plot advice to Elan is amazing ahahah. Absolutely brilliant! 😂😂😂
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2020-11-02, 05:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
I was just thinking . . . is this the first proper in-motion deliberation the Order's gotten since, uh . . . page 840, eight years ago??? V goes AWOL in the next couple of pages and then Durkon gets Gregg-ed (?) later on, so the Order is down by two until here, but that's more of a reunion than a tactics conference. Holy moly. No wonder everyone's feeling like the dynamics are good - we've been building to this for literal years!
Everyone's grown up and developed so much. Roy dealt with that whole bubbling trauma/chip on his shoulder combination about leadership in the Godsmoot Arc, Haley finally vented her feelings about not being a good person vis a vis her dad and Crystal, V is trying to make up for their . . . everything, Elan has taken up the role of support with gusto instead of following every whim, Durkon's got a new buddy and a new sense of direction, and Belkar is rolling down the thorny hill of Character Development whether he likes it or not. Go team. Everyone gets a lollipop and a sticker that says I partook in pan-party character development and it only took 1/3 of us croaking it to get here.I draw, and I write sometimes! Drow paladin avatar by me. They/Them
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2020-11-02, 05:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
I don't make the crazy rules, I just twist them to my purpose
"...the Perilious Path of Crushing Doom"
" Please, tell me it is actually filled with cute, fuzzy bunnies and they just named it that to be ironic."
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2020-11-02, 06:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
Not to mention that they would recognize that one by immediate auditory familiarity.
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2020-11-02, 06:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Amazing to see how much growth they have all under gone. What an amazing story. Are we nearing the end? Supposed to be the last book, but as Elan said, too many loose threads (Snarl anyone?).
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2020-11-02, 06:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Elan's skills may not be much, but, where it counts, they work.
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2020-11-02, 07:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-02, 07:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-02, 07:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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I just can't wait to finally see what the Monster in the Dark is.
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2020-11-02, 08:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-02, 08:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-02, 09:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
Because if your DM is throwing something that higher than you, something is probably wrong I think. Ad-hoc XP is a thing at least.
It’s why I don’t feel comfortable pegging Xykon that high despite being the most likely scenario. He is so much higher level than anyone besides maybe the MitD that I’d bet 5k quatloos and my left arsecheek that Xykon ends up taken out by showing him into the Gate instead of the Order actually being capable of doing anything of worth.Last edited by danielxcutter; 2020-11-02 at 09:09 AM.
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2020-11-02, 09:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, and if we look back to strip 1 of this book, it starts with a whole bunch of snarly threads (well, yarn) And way back when, Odin had something to say about yarn... I see worlds within worlds and yarn winding yarn
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2020-11-02, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well that would require Rich to be lying to us when he said this was the last book. I think a more reasonable answer would be it's not a different book it's just all crammed into one really big book.
The idea is if your party beat something THAT much above you, you probably didn't contribute much. Also to keep a group of Level 1s from hanging out with a level 20 NPC and just siphoning off all his CR 20 encounters to just slingshot themselves over all the early levels. :p"Besides, you know the saying: Kill one, and you are a murderer. Kill millions, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Fishman
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2020-11-02, 09:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1218 - The Discussion Thread
Roy and Elan's relationship has actually come full circle. Roy put him on the team in the first place because Elan understood the genre conventions around building a team of adventurers. Now he's relying on Elan's knowledge of genre conventions to determine when a final battle should be fought. Elan is in effect doing the job he was hired for, and Roy finally understands how best to use Elan's talents for the party's success.
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2020-11-02, 10:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-11-02, 10:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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"Besides, you know the saying: Kill one, and you are a murderer. Kill millions, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Fishman
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2020-11-02, 10:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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I was under the impression that the crayon strips depicted Shojo's understanding of the truth, not the actual truth, and thus didn't depict the actual layout of the area around Kraagor's gate, because Shojo didn't know the details of the layout. That's why the terrain depicted in #276 doesn't match with what is shown once the story actually reaches the area.
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