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2007-11-12, 02:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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What is the CR of this BBEG
This is the final form of one of 4 BBEGs in my campaign, and I'd like some help figuring his CR. He is a level 14 gestalt Barb/Sorc with 1 ranger level.
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Size/Type: Huge Construct
Hit Dice 14d12 (194hp)
Initiative: -1
Speed: 120, Fly 70
Armor Class: 31 (-3 size, -1 Dex, -2 Rage, +18 Natural, +4 Shield, +4 Armor +1 Dodge) (touch, don't botch, flat footed, 30)
Base Attack/Grapple: +14/+32
Attack: Greatsword +30 (2d8+21) (Optional Power Attack)
Full Attack: Greatsword +30/+30/+25/+20 (2d8+21) (Optional power attack)
Space/Reach: 15'
Special Attacks: Disintegrate 28d6 (Save DC 19), Trample (1d8+12)
Special Qualities: Construct traits, Dark vision 60, Low-light vision, improved uncanny dodge, DR 10/Adamantine
+120 Fire Immunity + 120 Cold immunity (from two energy immunity spells), Globe of Invulnerability, favored enemy: human
Abilities: STR 32 DEX 8 CON - INT 10 WIS 12 CHA 16
Saves: Fort - Ref +4 Will +16
Skills: Listen +10 Spot +10 Survival +20
Feats: Power Attack, Track, Extend Spell, Cleave, Great Cleave, Improved Bull Rush, Shock Trooper
CR: ?
The stats are for buffed and raging. As you can see, he will have a number of spells active on him including Body of War, extended overland flight, extended haste, extended globe of invulnerability, two separate energy immunities, extended Expeditious Retreat, greater magic weapon. Greater invisibility would obviously make him even more bad ass, but I want the PCs to look upon him and tremble. It's a level 10 gestalt party, FYI.Last edited by Human Paragon 3; 2007-11-12 at 10:43 AM.
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2007-11-12, 02:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is the CR of this BBEG
Looks about CR 17 to me.
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HP:26/26 PP: 40/40 AC:14,FlatFooted:13,Touch:13
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2007-11-12, 03:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-11-12, 05:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is the CR of this BBEG
I'd say 17 to 18.
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2007-11-12, 05:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is the CR of this BBEG
I dunno - he can't cast spells while raging, so once combat starts he's basically just a big dumb melee monster, and he doesn't even have any nasty supplementary SLAs like most melee monsters at that level do. Basically, he hits really hard and is himself moderately difficult to hit. I'd say CR 14 or so.
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2007-11-12, 06:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is the CR of this BBEG
Stronger than a CR 14 I'd say, but not nearly 17. I think that creatures shouldn't have more CR than hit dice, since it exposes them to deadly instakill/disable effects like Power Words, Holy Word, Blasphemy etc.
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2007-11-12, 10:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is the CR of this BBEG
Actually, with Body of War on, you can't cast spells or use any magic items. I would include SLAs in that definition. Technically, you couldn't even dismiss the spell, since you can't use magic, you shouldn't be able to dismiss them either.
Move earth or something to create a hole big enough, and then bury you while you rage. :P
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2007-11-12, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is the CR of this BBEG
Thanks for your help. The 32 was meant to be a 30, it was leftover from before I factored in the -2 for rage.
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2007-11-12, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is the CR of this BBEG
Not that it makes much difference, but I think that the AC penalty for Huge is only -2, not -3.
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2007-11-12, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is the CR of this BBEG
Another thing that may not be important. Globe of invulnerability is a static spell that you cast on area, it does not move with caster.
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