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[Anonymouswizard]

Why would Rey be suppressing the Force? (If that's what it was supposed to do in the first place ... Was it actually explained, or just implied?)

Likely some mixture of going undercover as a normal junker and being incompletely trained by Luke. I'd guess that Pete took some can't of 'can't disguise psionic presence flaw, mitigation: blue milk' flaw and the GM is just getting better at working his flaws into the game.

[Kantaki]

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Han's backstory is epic.

[Anonymouswizard]

He used large margins, but I'm guessing it's also printed in 30 point text.

[137beth]

I wonder if we'll actually get to see the full backstory Jim made?

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Maybe using Solo?

[Kantaki]

I wonder if we'll actually get to see the full backstory Jim made?

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Maybe using Solo?

There's a link under today's comic.
(In the transcript)

Edit: Jim: "Here it is."

[Gez]

Haven't read the Solo spinoff comic yet, but I hope at some point there is a reference to Old Man Henderson.

[Fyraltari]

How far into Solo have they come? Memnarch, how long have you kept this from us?

[Kornaki]

but Star Wars didn’t have trains before as far as I can recall

Obviously not a fan of the old rogue squadron game. I remember at least one mission you had to protect a supply train from Imperial bombers. Thinking about it now thatplot didn't make a ton of sense.

I can only assume they spent some time trying to figure out how to turn this movie into part of the game, realized all their ideas kind of sucked thanks to the working material, and decided to roll with that :)

[Fyraltari]

So did they bring the session to a complete stop in the middle of an escape scene just to go over Han's backstory?

Also, Jim came up with all that while he was still playing Kyle Katarn, right? Kind of understand why he didn't do much to save him.

[theangelJean]

So did they bring the session to a complete stop in the middle of an escape scene just to go over Han's backstory?

Also, Jim came up with all that while he was still playing Kyle Katarn, right? Kind of understand why he didn't do much to save him.

Hmm. Jim spent several sessions working on Han's backstory at the beginning of Ep. IV while Captain Antilles was dead, right? And that was after having played Kyle Katarn, Bria Tharen/Jyn Erso, and Bail Organa?

Also just noticing that Captain Antilles had an epic backstory of his own. Hmm, I wonder...

Archive trawl time ...

For Kyle Katarn, the GM asked Jim to make a character with a backstory. He told it to the group. (Next page, when asked for more, he had to start making things up.)
Next session, Jim had prepared a new character... but we wouldn't meet him until much later... And it turned out he was cribbed directly from the GM.
Since that character couldn't be introduced at that point, the GM gave him the NPC's sheet. He immediately started making modifications .

So I guess Jim had a few models for making a backstory before he got to Greedo/Han, and he had a few chances to practise. Plus he got a couple of great character deaths.

[MinimanMidget]

I just finished reading the backstory. That was incredible.

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It's amazing how many lines they left as is, and how well it works with the blanket excuse that Jim wrote them.

[Gez]

Well that was a whole two hundred and thirty four pages of backstory, and no references to Old Man Henderson's backstory. But there was a reference to the Chewbacca Defense, and we find out that Pete learned Latin.

That was quite a huge project to do on the side to reveal by surprise. Makes sense that the nested universe joke was discontinued.

[Anonymouswizard]

Wait, Corey ran Evangelion? I'm guessing that Sally played Gendo and that the 'lets replay the last two sessions' is referring to End of Eva.

[Kantaki]

Wait, Corey ran Evangelion? I'm guessing that Sally played Gendo and that the 'lets replay the last two sessions' is referring to End of Eva.

Probably something like Annie's campaign (Twilight/Van Helsing).
Started as Voltron(?) and "somehow" (Sally) ended as Evangelion.

[Cog]

Started as Voltron(?) and "somehow" (Sally) ended as Evangelion.

We've got very specific Voltron references and very specific Eva references now, so that's gotta be it.

Also, Pete has a very limited roster of girl's names that he likes. He's already repeating!

[Fyraltari]

About that backstory:
Aren't Annie and Jim living in the U.S. now? Did he send a pdf to everyone?

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So, I'm guessing Snoke is Maul. Also, I'm going to need to read the Rathar/Saarlac scenes in reverse order now.
Does anyone know why they changed Kessel to Orion III?

[Xihirli]

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My guess is, because the Kessel Run is now part of Han Solo's backstory, not Han Solo's.

[Kornaki]

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My guess is, because the Kessel Run is now part of Han Solo's backstory, not Han Solo's.

Your attention to detail is impeccable.

[137beth]

Also, they referred to "Han Solo's son" being murdered the same day Anakin won the pod race way back in Episode IV.

[Fyraltari]

Say what you want about the movie, but Enfys Nest's theme slaps.

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My guess is, because the Kessel Run is now part of Han Solo's backstory, not Han Solo's.

Ah, thanks. It's confusing to remember what happened to who sometimes.

[Xihirli]

Hey nice that's Mutants and Masterminds style phrasing.

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I can't wait to learn Luke's Darth name.
Yoda's was Sain.

Taking bets for what Luke's will be. Dustry? Sertion? Stantaneous? Structor?

[theangelJean]

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It feels a bit odd to have someone swinging around a lightsaber without injuring themself

Makes me think ... In the Darths and Droids universe, laser swords are insanely dangerous for those not trained in the Force. Which is eminently reasonable, swords are dangerous for the untrained, laser swords would be so much more so. But for all that everyone has talked up the risk to life and limb, have we actually seen anyone injure themselves with a lightsaber on-screen? I get the feeling that it not been an actual thing in the Star Wars movies up to this point. (I haven't consumed much EU media.)

And if I'm correct and we haven't - it says something about the writing of Da&Dr that we have this constant expectation that someone will maim themselves, to the point where it not happening feels odd, even though that's all we've ever seen.

[Pax1138]

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Makes me think ... In the Darths and Droids universe, laser swords are insanely dangerous for those not trained in the Force. Which is eminently reasonable, swords are dangerous for the untrained, laser swords would be so much more so. But for all that everyone has talked up the risk to life and limb, have we actually seen anyone injure themselves with a lightsaber on-screen? I get the feeling that it not been an actual thing in the Star Wars movies up to this point. (I haven't consumed much EU media.)

And if I'm correct and we haven't - it says something about the writing of Da&Dr that we have this constant expectation that someone will maim themselves, to the point where it not happening feels odd, even though that's all we've ever seen.

It's the kind of thing that's always said, and is an assumed facet of the setting since forever, but I can't remember anyone ever actually hurting themselves, even in the old EU (which isn't saying a lot as I didn't consume everything, and those that I did were last read loooong ago.)

[Anonymouswizard]

Makes me think ... In the Darths and Droids universe, laser swords are insanely dangerous for those not trained in the Force.

And also available in pretty much every bar. Although being incredibly dangerous isn't unusual for the stuff you find there.

In fact laser swords weren't meant to be the iconic weapons of Jedi. If Jim had made a difference decision they could have had the entire order wielding energy maces.

[Fyraltari]

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Makes me think ... In the Darths and Droids universe, laser swords are insanely dangerous for those not trained in the Force. Which is eminently reasonable, swords are dangerous for the untrained, laser swords would be so much more so. But for all that everyone has talked up the risk to life and limb, have we actually seen anyone injure themselves with a lightsaber on-screen? I get the feeling that it not been an actual thing in the Star Wars movies up to this point. (I haven't consumed much EU media.)

And if I'm correct and we haven't - it says something about the writing of Da&Dr that we have this constant expectation that someone will maim themselves, to the point where it not happening feels odd, even though that's all we've ever seen.

The movies never state at any point that Jedi are the only people who can wield ligtsabers are Force sensitive. The closest they come to is in ANH and RotJ where lightsabers are described as "Jedi weapons" (the Emperor even implies he doesn't use them). ESB shows Han using Luke's to eviscerate a tauntaun (which hardly requires any skill) and RotS shows Grievous wielding four despite being about as Force-sensitive as a particularly enlightened pile of coal (but he has mecanical arms, which would imply that droids could wield lightsabers without issue). Also in TPM Qui-Gon suggests non-Jedi could kill a Jedi and loot the lightsabers, which may imply the possibility of non-Jedi using them as weapons.

In the Original Trilogy lightsabers aren't necessarily presented as the ultimate weapon as no one ever use them to deflect blaster bolts back at the ennemy, lending some credence to Han's claim that blasters are better weapons.

The idea that only Force-sensitives may use lightsabers safely/efficiently only comes from the EU, as far as I can tell. Probably as a way to explain why more fighters don't use them, especially in video games.

I don't think Disneycanon has really weighted on the issue so far, but the existence, a'd continued appearances, of the Darksaber, a lightsaber that is also a Mandalorian heirloom and status symbol and therefore usually wielded by people with no affiliation to any Force cult whatsoever, makes me think they lean towards (anyone could use a lightsaber). Then again, the Darksaber is an abnormal lightsaber.

[theangelJean]

The movies never state at any point that Jedi are the only people who can wield ligtsabers are Force sensitive. ...
The idea that only Force-sensitives may use lightsabers safely/efficiently only comes from the EU, as far as I can tell.

Okay, thank you for confirming this concept doesn't come from the movies. I actually thought "Only Jedi can safely wield [lightsabers/laser swords]" was a pure Darths and Droids invention, along with its corollary "Untrained wielders of laser swords will severely injure themselves". Even having it confirmed that the latter never happened in the original trilogy or the prequels, it still feels inevitable now, because of the way the comic has built on the idea since Episode I.

[The Glyphstone]

The EU somehow tied it into the Jedi micro-combat precognition, in a way I still don't fully understand. Does seeing the future make you better at wielding a blade without mass or momentum?

[Kantaki]

The EU somehow tied it into the Jedi micro-combat precognition, in a way I still don't fully understand. Does seeing the future make you better at wielding a blade without mass or momentum?

It might help with knowing what not to do.
Where you shouldn't move your blade.
Though I'd expect the telekinesis to be at least as important to not cutting yourself on your glow stick of doom.

[Gez]

The EU somehow tied it into the Jedi micro-combat precognition, in a way I still don't fully understand. Does seeing the future make you better at wielding a blade without mass or momentum?

On that point, the EU just ran with what was in the original Star Wars movie. Remember Luke's training on the Falcon with the little hoverball, when Obi Wan has him deflect shots while blindfolded?

I'd say that lightsabers don't require having Force powers to wield them, but they do require them to become pertinent weapons when everybody else has blasters. So yeah, sure, Jedi can deflect blaster shots with their lightsabers. And that, I think, is both what requires having combat precognition and what makes lightsabers actually useful. Without this capacity, the Jedi knights would be better off with blasters.

One could imagine that after the Great Jedi Purge, there were a lot of lightsabers in circulation, looted from dead Jedi and used by people with no Jedi powers and therefore no special capacity to actually deflect blaster shots coming their way. And that such people who thought they could impress by claiming to know how to wield them when in fact they didn't, helped forge Han Solo's opinion that blasters are better.

[Fyraltari]

One could imagine that after the Great Jedi Purge, there were a lot of lightsabers in circulation, looted from dead Jedi

The vast majority of Jedi having been killed by clone troopers, it seems more likely to me that their lightsabers would have been kept by the Empire. The Death star runs on kyber crystals, after all.