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    I'm not sure whether the Draketooth method of evading Speak with Dead is better or this is, but yay loopholes!
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    Okay, I needed a laugh today. Thanks, Giant!
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    Serini and Belkar might not be related biologically, but they could cut from the same cloth.
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    Okay, the last panel was a crowning moment of awesome. All heed the elders of the glorious Halfling people.

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    Okay, when you put it like that I can see how maybe the Order made a bad first impression here.
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    Great work Haley.
    Belkar showing something akin to respect?
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    Ahh the joys of trying to escape a charm person spell, haha.

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    Belkar is killing it here.
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    Every line of this dialogue is worth a laugh. Can't wait to see what's happening to the other half of the Order.
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    Haley loopholing her way out of a compulsion effect before it is dispelled? Pure gold.

    Serini calling V a 'dunce-waffle'? Priceless.
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    Bet V hasn't been called an "absolute dunce-waffle" before. teehee

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    The real unanswered question here is whether Bloodthirst was in range of that Dispel Magic.

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    Ahh, a satisfying next step in this scene. I assume the conversation starts soon. Also lots of funny stuff; that last panel is great.

    The Dispel Magic appears to turn off the Protection From Evil clasp. Is that something we would have seen or noticed before?

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    The real unanswered question here is whether Bloodthirst was in range of that Dispel Magic.
    Doubt it. That'll get saved for a splash page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    The Dispel Magic appears to turn off the Protection From Evil clasp. Is that something we would have seen or noticed before?
    A successful dispel temporarily suppresses magic items.
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    That was some good rules-lawyering from Haley.
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    I think this puts to rest whether or not Serini is good, she is punishing scam callers, any and all actions against to do this are valid.
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    Oh dear gods...the Order has become the extended warranty sales calls!

    "Hello, we are calling about your Gate's extended warranty."

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    Dunce Waffle, ROFL!

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    Anyone remember when V contacted Serini for the first time?
    I don't recall when her/his hair was that frizzy...

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    Haley rules-lawyering in-universe is now my favorite thing

    Hey Serini, if the phone ringing is annoying, maybe answer it then?

    EDIT: Looks like Serini is physically weaker than Haley (understandable as she is probably venerable.) Geekery thread?
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    What a delightful page! The last panel was gold. Thank you, Giant!!

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    I think this puts to rest whether or not Serini is good, she is punishing scam callers, any and all actions against to do this are valid.
    This changes everything. To the debate thread!

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    Anyone remember when V contacted Serini for the first time?
    I don't recall when her/his hair was that frizzy...
    Pretty sure that detail is meant to place it immediately after V dropped out of Darth V mode, at the end of book 4.

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    Haley rules-lawyering in-universe is now my favorite thing :smallbiggrin
    Absolutely devious. I'm assuming it's a charm effect, rather than a domination one, and that gives her a bit more leeway?

    Haley's really shining in these last few pages.

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    To be fair, Haley much younger and almost twice her size. That doesn't seem to be a hard ask to me.
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    That cold calling with Sending....brings back memories.

    Way back when, we had obtained a recurring villain/nemesis for our little adventurer's party. We had 3 clerics and a sorcerer in the party so plenty of sending-casters available. And a bit of downtime between dungeons. What followed was a discussion on whether "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH" counts as a word, followed by attempts to Send to the guy with "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH ..... (repeat until 25 word achieved)".

    GM resolved it by allowing the cleric of Loki (we had one of those) to permit casting as planned, as well as for the Sorcerer. The other two, more lawful-aligned clerics got a stern talking-to about abusing divine communications mediums for spamming even hated enemies next time they visited a temple...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    Haley rules-lawyering in-universe is now my favorite thing

    Hey Serini, if the phone ringing is annoying, maybe answer it then?

    EDIT: Looks like Serini is physically weaker than Haley (understandable as she is probably venerable.) Geekery thread?
    I should point out that Serini, as a halfling, has a -4 penalty to Grapple checks compared to a Medium-sized creature.

    It is a bit odd that she doesn't have a FoM effect, and I dunno what the rules for Escape Artist are, but this is entirely plausible even if they had the same Str score.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ionathus View Post
    Pretty sure that detail is meant to place it immediately after V dropped out of Darth V mode, at the end of book 4.
    Ah yes, that would make sense. Thanks!

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    Love it!

    All the people constantly complaining about how the Giant portrays Charm effects as too much like dominate? This is what you sound like when you try to rules-lawyer your way around charm spells. and they great sky-DM just rolls their eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyoi View Post
    Funny that as myself and many others have been arguing at great length about exactly what Serini knows about the Order, I don't think any of us remembered that the Order has been literally calling her and telling her about themselves for weeks *facepalm*.
    It's certainly come up in some of those conversations.

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    that is a well drawn toilet. I can see you focused intensively while drawing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ionathus View Post
    Absolutely devious. I'm assuming it's a charm effect, rather than a domination one, and that gives her a bit more leeway?
    It is indeed a charm, but Haley could presumably resist a domination on the same grounds (Sunny wording the request poorly.)

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    Love it!

    All the people constantly complaining about how the Giant portrays Charm effects as too much like dominate? This is what you sound like when you try to rules-lawyer your way around charm spells. and they great sky-DM just rolls their eyes.
    The rules-lawyering worked though at least for Sunny's turn.
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