The Book of Boba Fett - First Trailer

[Palanan]

First trailer just out:






Looks very Star Warsy. Should be solid fun if nothing else.

[Fyraltari]

That's not Jabba's throne! That's Bib Fortuna's. Jabba couldn't fit on that. He didn't even have a throne, he had a stone couch, which is a very weird material to make a couch out of, when you think about it.

Plot points hinted at in the trailer:
- Boba fighting for power with Jabba's former lieutenants.
- Boba fighting Tuskens.
- Boba abandonning bounty hunting to become a... respectful crime-lord.

Other likely plot points:
- Boba fighting Hutts who object to a non-Hutt taking over Jabba's operation (how old is Jabba's son again?)
- Boba fighting Cobb Vanth who probably won't stand for another crimelord on Tattooine.
- Boba fighting the New Republic for basically the same reasons.
- I dunno something with the Imperial Remnant/First Order whatever.
- Boba writing a book.
- Han Solo or Lando Calrissian showing up in the last episode thanks to CGI devilry.

[Peelee]

Other likely plot points:
- Boba writing a book.

I need this in my life.

Other than that, "sit on Jabba's throne" is more metaphorical. He reigns as Jabba did, is what they're saying. The specific seat is immaterial, except for imagery.

But dang, am I stoked for this. And a little upset that I went for the Mando costume and not the rebuilt Fett costume. That's gonna be popular next year.

[Fyraltari]

I need this in my life.

What to do when you fall inside the Great Saarlac, by Boba Fett.

Other than that, "sit on Jabba's throne" is more metaphorical. He reigns as Jabba did, is what they're saying. The specific seat is immaterial, except for imagery.

Obviously, but I've got the sneaking suspicion that Bib Fortuna's rule won't be mentionned much, despite it having lasted, I want to say, five years?

But dang, am I stoked for this. And a little upset that I went for the Mando costume and not the rebuilt Fett costume. That's gonna be popular next year.

But for some reason, he didn't fix that dent in the helmet.

[Peelee]

Obviously, but I've got the sneaking suspicion that Bib Fortuna's rule won't be mentionned much, despite it having lasted, I want to say, five years?

Fair. I'll be optimistic and choose to believe that Fortuna didn't rule so much as he cowered in a fortress, given how Fett is trying to consolidate power.

But for some reason, he didn't fix that dent in the helmet.

The cosplayers would revolt. For reals, though, the dedicated Fett site is called "the dented helmet". It's pretty iconic for him. For whatever reason, that dent ain't never getting fixed. That being said, most of the dents didn't get fixed, and there are new ones. New paint job is all he got, looks like.

[Sapphire Guard]

What does Boba want with Jabba's throne?

It looks okay, but I'm cynical after Mando. We'll see.

[Peelee]

What does Boba want with Jabba's throne?

He's becoming lord of a criminal organization instead of just being a cog in the machine? I thought that was pretty obvious from the trailer. That seems to be the entire plot.

[Fyraltari]

He's becoming lord of a criminal organization instead of just being a cog in the machine? I thought that was pretty obvious from the trailer. That seems to be the entire plot.

It's also likely that his extremely close brush with death (falling into the Saarlac) made him think about his life a little. Getting his armour back may also have helped him regain a sense of pride and determination.

[russdm]

I think that it is a pretty cool thing to look forward to.

That said:

I think that the main focus is over the fact that Tatioone was ruled by the hutts and has had mixed results with government. The Republic did nothing and the Empire was apparently fine with hutt rule. I can see Boba trying to establish authority by trying to appeal to others by not using jabba's methods.

I can buy that idea because it really fits the part western and part Asian style star wars drew from. The samurai/ronin stuff. Plus Boba did work for jabba some so he could see what wsd working and what appeared not to.

Then there is the fact that the new republic seems to have abandoned its responsibility to maintain the peace and law, thanks to the nu-canon. So I see this all being because the new republic is pretty incompetent at doing what needs to be done

Maybe this will be another show that will subtly encourage the idea that the Empire was better for the Galaxy than the relatively ineffective new republic

[Fyraltari]

The Republic did nothing and the Empire was apparently fine with hutt rule. I can see Boba trying to establish authority by trying to appeal to others by not using jabba's methods.

Tattoine wasn't in the Old Republic, though. It was part of the Empire, so they probably conquered it (Jabba likely made a deal with the Empire to keep most of his stuff).

Then there is the fact that the new republic seems to have abandoned its responsibility to maintain the peace and law, thanks to the nu-canon. So I see this all being because the new republic is pretty incompetent at doing what needs to be done

Maybe this will be another show that will subtly encourage the idea that the Empire was better for the Galaxy than the relatively ineffective new republic

The Mandalorian was pretty explicit that whatever the New Republic's flaws are, the Empire was way, way, way worse, so I doubt that.

[Peelee]

Maybe this will be another show that will subtly encourage the idea that the Empire was better for the Galaxy than the relatively ineffective new republic

What was the first one?

[Mechalich]

What was the first one?

The implication is that the Mandalorian also made this point, and it's a general issue of the Disney canon overall that the Rebellion won the war but lost the peace, something that's absolutely necessary to make the ST plotline function at all. That's a direct contrast to the Legends plotline which was all about the prolonged struggle to win the peace and required an outside-context-problem in order to restart that cycle of war while the big three were still alive.

Regardless, it's important to differentiate between life in the Core/Colonies and life in the Mid and Outer Rim, which are functionally two different worlds. Life under the Empire may in fact have been better for certain portions of the frontier, based on the idea that any law, no matter how capricious and harsh, is better than no law at all and the Palpatine's massive military build up poured resources into the Outer Rim regions, which benefitted the area economically. However, life in the Core was clearly worse and, critically, most people in the galaxy live in the Core, we just rarely see those people.

Star Wars has a lost of Western structural elements, including that it mostly unfolds in the wild west equivalent of its own universe, even though the overwhelming majority of the people live back east in the big cities and dense farmlands.

Tattoine wasn't in the Old Republic, though. It was part of the Empire, so they probably conquered it (Jabba likely made a deal with the Empire to keep most of his stuff).

Tatooine was part of the Old Republic, initially, post-Ruusan. Rather it was one of the many territories that slipped out of Republic control as the Old Republic slowly collapsed inward and weakened in the prolonged buildup to the Clone Wars. It was by no means unique in this way, the Republic lost a huge amount of territory on the Rim due to neglect/corruption/weakness. The Hutts - the big green blob on this map, where simply the largest beneficiaries. That map also has a lot of Outer Rim space that lacks a color, which wasn't controlled by the Republic either.

[Peelee]

The implication is that the Mandalorian also made this point, and it's a general issue of the Disney canon overall that the Rebellion won the war but lost the peace, something that's absolutely necessary to make the ST plotline function at all.

A.) literally the only person who advocates this is a former imperial who is explicitly a villain.
2.) even then, the ST plotline doesn't function, so I have no issue there.

[DigoDragon]

Maybe this will be another show that will subtly encourage the idea that the Empire was better for the Galaxy than the relatively ineffective new republic

I argue that neither were better; applying a singular governing system to the entire galaxy is just not feasible because of the size and scope involved. ... though looking back at The Mandalorian, I guess bounty hunters would say the Empire is better considering their choice of occupation was supported by the empire. :3

Anyway, the trailer looks pretty good and so I look forward to watching this series. Hutt politics sounds like fun with a blaster.

[Fyraltari]

I argue that neither were better

In my opinion, any system that carries out genocides is automatically disqualified.

[AMX]

- Boba writing a book.

I need this in my life.

What to do when you fall inside the Great Saarlac, by Boba Fett.

TBQH, I've had a rather different idea stuck in my head...

Spoiler

Show

The Book of Boba Fett
Tall Tales for Children and Parents
Compiled and illustrated by Fennec Fett-Shand

(Title image is Boba Fett riding a dinosaur, from the Holiday Special)

[Peelee]

TBQH, I've had a rather different idea stuck in my head...

Spoiler

Show

The Book of Boba Fett
Tall Tales for Children and Parents
Compiled and illustrated by Fennec Fett-Shand

(Title image is Boba Fett riding a dinosaur, from the Holiday Special)

I choose to believe it's a coloring book.

[Fyraltari]

TBQH, I've had a rather different idea stuck in my head...

Spoiler

Show

The Book of Boba Fett
Tall Tales for Children and Parents
Compiled and illustrated by Fennec Fett-Shand

(Title image is Boba Fett riding a dinosaur, from the Holiday Special)

Are Fennec and Boba married in that scenario of yours?

[AMX]

Are Fennec and Boba married in that scenario of yours?

Married with children.

Boba tells the kids grossly exagerrated stories about his adventures as a bounty hunter, Fennec writes them down, adds her own artwork, and compiles them into a book.

...also, the double name means she can sign all her email with "FFS"

[Fyraltari]

Married with children.

Boba tells the kids grossly exagerrated stories about his adventures as a bounty hunter, Fennec writes them down, adds her own artwork, and compiles them into a book.

I'm not seeing it (yet).
But.

...also, the double name means she can sign all her email with "FFS"

This, this is I like.

[Psyren]

I'm kinda sad they don't seem to have much idea of what to do with the Force-users. Don't get me wrong, the bounty hunter/smuggler/mandalorian/etc side of the universe has plenty of stories too, but I want to get back to the magic stuff too.

Hell, at this point I'll settle for a not-really-Force-user like Chirrut.

[Peelee]

I'm kinda sad they don't seem to have much idea of what to do with the Force-users. Don't get me wrong, the bounty hunter/smuggler/mandalorian/etc side of the universe has plenty of stories too, but I want to get back to the magic stuff too.

Hell, at this point I'll settle for a not-really-Force-user like Chirrut.

That's one thing I like about it - Force users are supposed to be uncommon to downright rare, and the SW universe has a whole galaxy to play around with, and in glad they seem to be waking up to that idea

[Fyraltari]

I'm kinda sad they don't seem to have much idea of what to do with the Force-users. Don't get me wrong, the bounty hunter/smuggler/mandalorian/etc side of the universe has plenty of stories too, but I want to get back to the magic stuff too.

Hell, at this point I'll settle for a not-really-Force-user like Chirrut.

Well, the Prequel Era is kind of the most well-trod ground of the (disney) EU right now, anything set in the Sequel Era is goung to be a hard sell for a while, so that leaves us with the Empire Era and the New Republic Era, one of which has very little Jedi left and two Sith we know everything about and the other has no Sith and any introduced Jedi have the issue of very likely dying in the destruction of Luke's school.

Introducing a new Force group as focus characters would raise a lot of questions too and has no guarantee of being welcomed by the fans (I'd bet against, personally) so, yeah, I'm not really sure what they should do.


Maybe the planned new trilogy helmed by Johnson, if it is indeed still happening, could shake that up, I dunno.

[Psyren]

Well, the Prequel Era is kind of the most well-trod ground of the (disney) EU right now, anything set in the Sequel Era is goung to be a hard sell for a while, so that leaves us with the Empire Era and the New Republic Era, one of which has very little Jedi left and two Sith we know everything about and the other has no Sith and any introduced Jedi have the issue of very likely dying in the destruction of Luke's school.

Introducing a new Force group as focus characters would raise a lot of questions too and has no guarantee of being welcomed by the fans (I'd bet against, personally) so, yeah, I'm not really sure what they should do.

That's one thing I like about it - Force users are supposed to be uncommon to downright rare, and the SW universe has a whole galaxy to play around with, and in glad they seem to be waking up to that idea

Yeah I get that but like... the Force is what makes AGFFA interesting as a setting for me. I can get space bounty hunters shooting lasers at each other and running mob empires anywhere. I can only get Jedi here

And The Mandalorian knew it too. Yeah his badass normal exploits were great to watch, but I don't think the show would have hit nearly as hard as it did without the enigma of the kid psionically saving his behind multiple times, not to mention Ahsoka and Luke(!!!) showing up towards the back half. I'm seeing none of that in this trailer, which just makes me worried that they're tossing it all out for this series. (Incidentally, the reception to those three characters makes me think, no, Force-sensitives showing up wouldn't cause too much of a negative backlash.)

Maybe the planned new trilogy helmed by Johnson, if it is indeed still happening, could shake that up, I dunno.

I think it's going to be at least 2 more years, maybe 3, before we hear a peep about that

[Peelee]

Yeah I get that but like... the Force is what makes AGFFA interesting as a setting for me. I can get space bounty hunters shooting lasers at each other and running mob empires anywhere. I can only get Jedi here

If you find them interesting, that's no problem. That's totally understandable. If, without the Jedi, you can't really tell any difference between Star Wars and Star Trek and Firefly and Futurama and.....

Diluting everything about Star Wars (or hell, even just this upcoming series) to "shooting lasers at each other and running mob empires" is a gross oversimplification that nullifies all the world building that virtually every popular scifi universe builds. It's totally fine to say "I like the Force users best". It's massively mischaracterizing to say "everything else I can get anywhere else".

It's Star Wars. There's going to be plenty of content that focus on Force users. I hope you enjoy them. But I want some stuff that explores the larger world. There's a whole galaxy to play around in, and restricting everything to only Force users makes the galaxy seem much smaller, more restrictive, and more boring.

[Psyren]

Oh I can tell the difference, it just isn't all that special to me. Plus not being all that interested in Boba (who I guess is a true Mandalorian now?) Ah well, I'm not here to yuck anyone's yum.

It's Star Wars. There's going to be plenty of content that focus on Force users. I hope you enjoy them. But I want some stuff that explores the larger world. There's a whole galaxy to play around in, and restricting everything to only Force users makes the galaxy seem much smaller, more restrictive, and more boring.

I would posit part of the reason for that boredom, stems from the fact that every major Force User we've gotten in A-Canon has been tied in some way to one specific family/dynasty, and the central events surrounding said family. At the very least, I'm beyond bored of that too.

[Peelee]

Oh I can tell the difference, it just isn't all that special to me. Plus not being all that interested in Boba (who I guess is a true Mandalorian now?) Ah well, I'm not here to yuck anyone's yum.

Totally fair. Sorry, I might have gotten that confmated with people who claim that Force users are the only thing that make Star Wars different from any other series. My bad.

Also, Fett is canonically not Mandalorian.

I would posit part of the reason for that boredom, stems from the fact that every major Force User we've gotten in A-Canon has been tied in some way to one specific family/dynasty, and the central events surrounding said family. At the very least, I'm beyond bored of that too.

The absolute last thing I want is another "different levels of canon" in Star Wars. But yeah, I agree. That being said, I was still really hoping that Visions would have at least one story without going full bore into Jedi and lightsabers. As is, it was a whole series based on a one-trick pony, despite branching out to non-Skywalkers. So it shouldn't be surprising why I liked Mandalorian (which, despite the Child, had significantly less Force usage and had the vast majority of all events influenced by non Force users not using the Force) and am so excited about BoBF. Along with Andor, Rangers of the New Republic, and pretty much everything else they plan to put out soon.

[Psyren]

Totally fair. Sorry, I might have gotten that confmated with people who claim that Force users are the only thing that make Star Wars different from any other series. My bad.

Also, Fett is canonically not Mandalorian.

Aren't the Fetts foundlings, kind of? You might be right, this is far from my strong suit.

The absolute last thing I want is another "different levels of canon" in Star Wars. But yeah, I agree. That being said, I was still really hoping that Visions would have at least one story without going full bore into Jedi and lightsabers. As is, it was a whole series based on a one-trick pony, despite branching out to non-Skywalkers. So it shouldn't be surprising why I liked Mandalorian (which, despite the Child, had significantly less Force usage and had the vast majority of all events influenced by non Force users not using the Force) and am so excited about BoBF. Along with Andor, Rangers of the New Republic, and pretty much everything else they plan to put out soon.

Fair enough, I haven't gotten around to Visions yet so it could be wall to wall lightsabers for all I know. I guess I'm not all that interested in animated star wars either

[Peelee]

Aren't the Fetts foundlings, kind of? You might be right, this is far from my strong suit.



Fair enough, I haven't gotten around to Visions yet so it could be wall to wall lightsabers for all I know. I guess I'm not all that interested in animated star wars either

Short version is Jango Fett was, more or less, excommunicated.

You should check out Visions. I think you'd like it a lot - the different studios doing different stories independently makes it hard for at least one to not be good, and most of them are good. My faves are episodes 4 and 8, and hated 3 more than you can possibly imagine. Apparently, if you're into anime and familiar with the studio, it's enjoyable, though. But yeah, I think the series overall will be right up your alley. Especially episode 5. I wasn't a fan but I'm significantly in the minority on that one.

[Mystic Muse]

Totally fair. Sorry, I might have gotten that confmated with people who claim that Force users are the only thing that make Star Wars different from any other series. My bad.

While I will not claim that force users are the only thing that makes Star Wars different from any other series, they're the only thing that I personally am really interested in for anything that isn't a movie or series, and the series has to be done really well for me to be interested in extended scenes of non-force users.

I like the Mandalorian, but I wouldn't want to play in a tabletop RPG based around something like the Mandalorian.

I am at least potentially looking forward to book of Boba Fett, even if I think he should have died in the Sarlacc pit.