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2022-03-06, 01:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2020
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Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Welcome to Round 45 of the Villainous Competition!
Previous Competitions
Spoiler
Round One: Leader of Armies
Round Two: Nature's Revenger
Round Three: Double Agent
Round Four: Grave Keeper
Round Five: Crime Lord
Round Six: Ultimate Predator
Round Seven: Wicked Witch
Round Eight: Master of the Tundra
Round Nine: The Power of Villainous Thinking
Round Ten: Henchman Are Villains Too
Round Eleven: The Higher They Rise The Harder They Fall
Round Twelve: Power Comes at a Price
Round Thirteen: The Gadgeteer - You Are Not Batman
Round Fourteen: The Thing That Should Not Be
Round Fifteen: The Horsemen Are Drawing Nearer
Round Sixteen: Burn Baby Burn
Round Seventeen: It's Alive!
Round Eighteen: This is Heresy
Round Nineteen: He Slimed Me!
Round Twenty: Elder Evil
Round Twenty-One: Yarr!
Round Twenty-Two: I Am The Night!
Round Twenty-Three: Two Heads Are Better Than One!
Round Twenty-Four: Wrong For The Right Reasons!
Round Twenty-Five: Keeper of the Gate
Round Twenty-Six: Get In MY BELLY (Swallow Whole)
Round Twenty-Seven: Multiple Personality Disorder
Round Twenty-Eight: Tiny Only!
Round Twenty-Nine: Halloween Special
Round Thirty: One Feat to Rule Them ALL
Round Thirty-One: In Cold Blood
Round Thirty-Two: oh HELL NO!
Round Thirty-Three: The Do Over
Round Thirty-Four: Sword and Board
Round Thirty-Five: I Shall Call Him Mini Me!
Round Thirty-Six: The Broken Man
Round Thirty-Seven: Yin and Yang
Round Thirty Eight: Spooks and Spectres
Round Thirty Nine: Sorta Psuedo
Round Forty: Negative Nancy
Round Forty One: Gojira!
Round Forty Two: Caine?!
Round Forty Three: The Big Dumb Brute
Forty Four: The Sheriff.
We're a little different than most of the optimization threads. We run on CR instead of ECL.
Contestants:
You will need to present a write-up of your build with at least one of the following points: 5 CR, 10 CR 15 CR, 20 CR, and a "sweet spot" that you feel is the high point of the build, as well as presenting a fully-fleshed out 20 CR build in the table below. Feel free to present as many of these as you like, and please give a rundown of the build's abilities and playability at all of the levels you didn't show. It is recommended for new contestants to look at previous rounds and see how things are usually done. The rules are as follows:
Secret Laboratory:
Competitors will be free to use any official 1st party (WotC) 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon Compendium is allowed, but Dragon magazine is disallowed. Unearthed Arcana is allowed. Unupdated 3.0 materials, as well as web exclusives by WotC are expressly allowed, but take care to verify that an updated version did not appear in print elsewhere, as this may cause an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion. Alternate rule systems from UA such as gestalt or Generic Classes are not allowed, as they create a different playing field. Item Familiars and Taint are also banned from the competition. Leadership and all similar abilities are banned for sanity reasons.
Builds that are fully monstrous are allowed at no penalty. All class levels are to be added on as associated class levels.
Elite array (15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8) is the assumed ability score generation method.
Monstrous characters can usually qualify for Epic feats as soon as their HD is over 20. While regular Epic feats will be allowed, Epic Spellcasting and all other Epic feats that affect spells, psionic powers, or item creation are not permitted. Including these would give an unfair advantage over standard characters. For Incarnum characters, Epic Open Chakra feats are allowed; other Epic Incarnum feats are not. The Essentia Capacity increases for Epic capacity as described on p. 212. For all characters, please note that Racial Hit Dice do not count towards Epic Progression of BAB and saves; use the regular progression even if the BAB ends up higher than 20.
Deadlines:
Contestants will have until March 25th, 10:00 AM GMT to create their builds and PM them to the Interim Chair. Builds will then be posted simultaneously, to avoid copying. Judges should strive to finish their judgement until April 10th. Deadlines are subject to extension as/if required.
Judging:
Judging will be based on the following criteria, with each build rated on a scale from 1 (very poor) to 5 (exemplary) in each area: Originality, Build Elegance, Competence and Power, Memorable Villainy.
Keep these questions in mind when judging each category:
Originality - Is it unexpected?
Build Elegance - Is it mechanically pretty?
Competence and Power - Can it do what the concept asks of it? Is this a powerfully-built character?
Memorable Villainy - Is this a villain with style? Will it be the BBEG players long to finally kill and then talk about for weeks?
Unearthed Arcana can be penalized for elegance if the specific feature seems unnecessary or makes the playing field unfair (In this case, you can give a 1 if it makes the field unfair.)
Power level is up to you. Cheese is acceptable, but should be kept to a sane level unless you're showcasing a new TO build you've discovered. As the Iron Chef competition states, a little cheddar can be nice, but avoid the mature Gruyere unless you're making a cheese fondue.
You may not judge if you entered the contest, unless you withdraw your submission.
Presentation:
Builds will be posted anonymously, in order to avoid the potential of bias towards a particular competitor. For this reason, please don't put your name in the build, as the chair is likely to miss it when reviewing the entries.
Note:
There is a hard limit on two entries per competitor.
Due to concerns about standardizing entry format, everyone should try to use the following table for their entry. An easy way to do so is to go to the top left of the private message and click the little a/A icon. It allows you to see what you're writing.
SpoilerCode immediately below (spoiler).CR Class Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Skills Feats Class Features 1 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 2 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 3 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 4 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 5 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 6 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 7 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 8 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 9 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 10 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 11 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 12 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 13 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 14 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 15 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 16 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 17 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 18 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 19 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities 20 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities Spoiler[table="class: head alt1 alt2"]
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[th][B]Skills[/B][/th]
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[td]New Class Level[/td]
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[td]Feats[/td]
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[td]3[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]4[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]5[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]6[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]7[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]8[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
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[td]Skills[/td]
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[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]9[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
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[td]Feats[/td]
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[td]10[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]11[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
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[td]12[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
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[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]13[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]14[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]15[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]16[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]17[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]18[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]19[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
[td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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[td]20[/td]
[td]New Class Level[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]+x[/td]
[td]Skills[/td]
[td]Feats[/td]
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You can use the table below for Spells.
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Spells per Day/Spells Known
Spells per Day/Spells Known
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[B]Spells per Day/Spells Known[/B]
[B]Spells per Day/Spells Known[/B]
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[th][B]5th[/B][/th]
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[td]1st[/td]
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[td]11th[/td]
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[td]12th[/td]
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[td]14th[/td]
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[td]15th[/td]
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[td]20th[/td]
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Speculation:
Please don’t post or speculate on possible builds until the reveal, in order to avoid spoiling the surprise if a particular competitor is producing a build along those lines.
Once builds are revealed, please do not comment on errors or rules issues on entries unless you are a judge. If you have such a comment, wait until the final reveal to post it.
Get ready to share those Evil thoughts. This edition’s villain is:
The Wolf in Sheep's Clothing!
Limitations
- Must appear as a medium-sized humanoid. The more the disguise can stand to scrutiny, the better. The more physical qualities and capabilities are maintained even while disguised, the better.
- Must not actually be a humanoid and must be of a size larger than medium.
- Must devour humanoids, in one sense or another. The more mechanical backup you have for this, the better.
- Must be evil, of course.
Let the carnage begin!
Submission:
To standardize Entries, please use this format when sending it in:
PM: H_H_F_F
Subject: Villainous Competition 45, Name of your Entry
For Revisions and disputes, do the same thing. It makes it easier for me finding the entries in my mailbox.
More questions? PM me with Villainous Competition 45 Questions in the header.
We will award 1st through 3rd places, and a possible Honorable Mention.
Spoiler: Tips for submitting, provided by Weaselguy:
- Use capitalization and punctuation correctly.
- Make good use of Spoilers, for cleanliness.
- Don't forget your sources. If it's something that can be found in the contents section, then book title seems to be fine. Obscure stuff, may want to include page number too.
- DeviantArt has about 9 billion pictures that you can reference, I can almost guarantee you can find one there to fit your character.
- Make good use of tables. In addition to the Build table and the Spells table, I like doing one for my Ability Scores, just to keep it neat.
- Do a build stub at the top of your Build Table, something like Wizard 2/Fighter 3/Abjurant Champion 5/Eldritch Knight 10Last edited by H_H_F_F; 2022-03-21 at 01:26 PM.
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2022-03-06, 01:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Clarifications
Unearthed Arcana variant rules are limited: The variant character options (such as Wildshape Ranger and Thug Fighter) should not be penalized. Flaws and traits may be penalized by judges, whereas item familiars, gestalt, alternate skill systems, alternate magic systems, alternate crafting rules, generic base classes, LA buyoff, fractional saves/BAB, and bloodlines are banned. Anything not mentioned here is up to individual judges.
d20 Rokugan is not allowed material.
The Dragon Magazine update for Oriental Adventures is in use.
Leadership is banned. Any material that grants you leadership without you specifically taking it should be ignored and may not be traded away for another feat or ACF. Undead Leadership and Dragon Cohort are likewise banned. Wild Cohort and Obtain Familiar are allowed. If you are not sure if a specific feat violates the 'no leadership' rule, err on the side of caution, or ask me.
However, Leadership may be taken to qualify for another feat or class (such as the Great Captain feat or Legendary Leader prestige class), though a character still doesn't get its usual benefit in those cases. This is to allow characters to access unproblematic material that'd otherwise be made unavailable because of the Leadership ban.
On the subject of messaging the chair (me), a few guidelines:
- You can ask for clarifications on the rules of the round or the competition, but I am not here to give critiques on your build or guess how the judges might score it.
- When submitting entries, please keep the entry to no more than 2 message, if at all possible. That way, it'll fit within one post.
- Also when submitting entries, don't expect me to search through your entry and edit in or out material. Entries should be sent to me complete - if there is a later revision, re-submit the full build. Do not include any text which you don't want posted in your submission.
- Please make sure the name of your entry is clearly present in the message.Screaming defiance with the last breath
It would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.
My judgments and medals!
The Iron Chef Optimization spreadsheet!
Song, Sword, and Sorcery: my 5E homebrew half-caster bard (Version 2.0!)
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2022-03-06, 03:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
I'm in. Have at least one idea.
If you could make anything and everything welcome to the Zinc Saucier XLV: Figaro
My competition's medals.
Spoiler: For purposes of clarity1109 is September, 11 - my birthday.
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2022-03-06, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
I have a couple ideas for this round.
I made a webcomic, featuring absurdity, terrible art, and alleged morals.
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2022-03-06, 05:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
The Ghost of Vizzini hovers around...
If you could make anything and everything welcome to the Zinc Saucier XLV: Figaro
My competition's medals.
Spoiler: For purposes of clarity1109 is September, 11 - my birthday.
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2022-03-06, 05:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
My initial thought was sadly 0% mechanically viable. But I'll adapt for a version that works. It'll be silly, if nothing else, and recent convo has me in the mood for a challenge like this.
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2022-03-07, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
I have two questions with regard to the build limitations.
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- Must appear as a medium-sized humanoid. The more the disguise can stand to scrutiny, the better. The more physical qualities and capabilities are maintained even while disguised, the better.
- Must not actually be a humanoid and must be of a size larger than medium.
- Must devour humanoids, in one sense or another. The more mechanical backup you have for this, the better.
- Must be evil, of course.
To illustrate the distinction I'm seeking clarification on, I'll use two illegal examples to avoid build speculation:
- If a Terrasque (a naturally colossal creature) uses alternate form/polymorph to become medium, does that satisfy the requirement to be larger than medium?
- Conversely, if a Hairy Spider (natural size fine) increased their size to colossal, then used alternate form/polymorph to become medium, would that satisfy the requirement?
As a follow-up question: do you mean they must appear as medium without mechanically being medium, or can the creature currently be mechanically medium while having a different size?
To illustrate this distinction: a large creature with an absurdly high disguise check vs a large creature using alternate form to appear medium.
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2022-03-07, 05:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
The creature's natural form must be larger than medium. The hairy spider cannot qualify if they achieved their size by some spell or effect. If that particular spider is colossal in its natural form, it qualifies, of course.
The second question: the creature can be medium while disguised without disqualifying or anything, but note that the limitations say that the more physical qualities and capabilities you keep when disguised, the better. Size is a very important physical quality, and keeping it would be better.
Just to provide a look behind the curtain: I initially wanted the limitation to state that you had to be larger than medium even when disguised, but decided that was probably too restrictive. Getting to that goal is still good, in my view.Screaming defiance with the last breath
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
This is relevant to my interests. In to cook.
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Fascinating. I hope I have the time for this one.
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
First in, second in mind.
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
And second sent, too.
My initial idea, well, it thought it's too obvious and straightforward. I had two or three more. This theme is so rich! Can't wait for 23rd. )))
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
I've had a ton of ideas for this one, all of which run into one of the 3 restrictions. The size one in particular is getting in my way.
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About a week 'till the deadline.
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Life's been super crazy (local elections, work, wife has covid, etc). I have the build done and most of the stub done (minus skills). Just have to find the time to grind out the background, statblock, CR breakpoints... It's honestly just felt much more overwhelming than usual with everything going on. :( I'm certain I'll get it done some time though
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Thanks; she's doing much better (thank goodness), but she's stuck home until Friday, but I'll probably be on the couch a little longer just to be absolutely safe.
I just got the skill ranks done (maybe not perfectly, but for the above mentioned reasons, I'm just glad to have them done), and that's always the most daunting part.
Edit: Everything but CR benchmarks and sources are done. I'm a little frustrated at how this is turning out. I should be able to finish it in the deadline, so I don't want to ask for an extension, but with things being the way they are, I don't think this is going to be as polished as it should be. I hope the judges (and studio audience) at least appreciate the concept.Last edited by Doctor Despair; 2022-03-17 at 10:08 PM.
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
please note that Racial Hit Dice do not count towards Epic Progression of BAB and saves; use the regular progression even if the BAB ends up higher than 20.
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2022-03-19, 01:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Yes
In other words, for the purposes of the VC, only having more than 20 class levels makes you transition to epic progression. Note that the rules still limit iterative attacks to 4 at the max, epic progression or not.
These are the rules as I inherited them from the lawful chairs of this competition. If I' ever made permanent chair, I might just rule that there's no epic progression rules for VC, to simplify matters.Last edited by H_H_F_F; 2022-03-19 at 01:34 PM.
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2022-03-20, 08:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Working on the third entry. I don't like my first, think to replace it.
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Only a couple of days remaining! How is everyone doing?
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
First entry in. Working on a second one because the first didn't turn out quite the way I'd like it and I think it'd be faster to just write a new one than fix the old one. I'm on covid leave for a few days, so why not?
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Need to request an extension.
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2022-03-21, 01:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Fine by me.
I'm pushing the deadline by 48 hours, everyone.
New deadline: March 25th.Last edited by H_H_F_F; 2022-03-21 at 01:27 PM.
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
And the second's in; a lil better than the first, I think. I guess we'll see what the judges think.
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
I expect plenty of entries for this round.
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
I haven't been able to come up with anything useful with the ideas that I've had, so I won't be submitting any entries this round. Which in turn means I'll be able to judge, so there's a silver lining.
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
We are honored by your sacrifice.
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Re: Villainous Competition XLV: Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Thank you, Invisiblebison.
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