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2022-05-24, 05:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
Can I ask for a 3-day extension in advance? Current schedule won't work for me.
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2022-05-24, 08:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
The rules for arcane duelist lay out specific exceptions for stacking. Other things like weapon of impact do not stack. The answer to Sam's question simply means that you can apply false keenness to a weapon that is not piercing or slashing.
Sure.Kolyarut Avatar by Potatocubed.
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2022-05-27, 10:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
I've been struggling the past hour to get this straight. But now I guess I know what the author wants to tell us.
Lets dissect the ability:
Originally Posted by False Keenness
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>>part about stacking rules
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If the arcane duelist uses this power in conjunction with the dexterous attack power, the damage dealt by a critical hit is reduced by the weapon's critical multiplier. Thus, the arcane duelist wielding a rapier and using dexterous attack to reduce the damage by 4 on her rapier has it reduced by 12 if she scores a critical hit using this power. The weapon must still do a minimum 1 point of damage.
2. the weapons crit multiplier becomes a dmg penalty before the crit dmg gets multiplied. In the chase of the rapier (x2), this adds a -2 penalty to the mentioned Dexterous Attack penalty of -4, summing up to -6. Since we crit for double dmg (x2 Rapier) the total reduction for the crit is -12 in the end of the calculation.
TL;DR: It's just simply your crit multiplier as penalty to damage that works like any other dmg penalty for crits.
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2022-05-28, 12:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
I can tell I'm going to need to re-read the Viscount's final ruling on this stuff before judging.
I actually find the mechanics in this SI fascinating and am looking forward to seeing what people do with it.
I have my own opinions on how this would normally shake out in terms of power, how you'd make it effective, how enemies would act to make the SI less effective. But the devil will be in the details of how the Chefs use the PRC and try to leverage the odd mechanics.
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2022-05-28, 03:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
Personally I don't, and the numbers match indeed, and I kind of like how it "reverse scale with the multiplier, basically coming down to "multiplier^2 as extra penalty".
The headscratcher is coming to a consensus before committing, because I'd hate to write down "wrong math". Makes me twitchy :D
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2022-05-28, 04:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
imho no. You sole add "crit multiplier" as normal penalty to your (base) damage (as normal for modifiers!).
It's just the nature of crits that they multiply the outcome with your crit multiplier, (and the fact that the penalty sole comes into play when you actually crit). Again, just base d&d math.
Just the way it is presented/worded in the ability is a bit hard to gasp at first glance.Extended Signature with Links to all my build showcases in the forum
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2022-05-28, 07:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yes I mean, that "extra" damage penalty will always come out to be 4, 9, 16, 25 and so on , regardless of what other penalties or bonuses we have, it's easy enough to plug in onto actual gameplay, because it's just "after you totaled your damage, if it was a crit and you used both false keenness and dexterous attack, subtract the square of your crit multiplier. doing (amount-5)*5 or doing (amount*5)-(5*5) gives the same result.
But it's annoying to plug it in on the formula for average damage, because it's worse if you have a bigger multiplier, and it's also worse if you have a high threat range. But what it's annoying is that you can't go express it in %, because it's always a flat amount and what the relative weight of that flat amount will depend on the rest of your build.
Like, stupidly, using false keenness with dexterous attack lowers your average damage if you're using a 20/xX weapon , because you go from 0.05*0+0.90*1+0.05*2 ("100%") to (0.05*0+0.85*1+0.1*2) = 105% -4 , that 5% needs to be more than 4 to break even, so if your crit is less than 80 damage, you got worse.
Granted, hitting for more than 20 average before crit isn't hard, and then it all becomes the usual mindgame of accuracy vs payout
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2022-05-28, 08:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
The math for false keenness is so weird that the only way we can make it work is by making up interpretations. I don't think that worth it.
That's why the ruling is that we're ignoring the example provided in the class. When you make a critical hit, apply the penalty to your damage roll before multiplying the damage.Kolyarut Avatar by Potatocubed.
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2022-05-28, 09:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
Oh yeah, I get it know. sry it was to early as I read your other post.
I guess I get now how hard it can be for the authors to find the right words (with no room for misinterpretation)..^^
That's what imho the text is basically saying in the authors weird way. Well, whatever. I guess we'll see how this all turns out. And if the judges get how it is supposed to work and how they have to judge it is on another page ;)
I'm looking forward to the incoming mess xD
Especially as the two judges encouraged to go all out here (dipping and stuff...). I'm curious to see what ideas we'll see. The Si looked boring at first glance, but as it seem it is rather intriguing.Extended Signature with Links to all my build showcases in the forum
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2022-05-28, 02:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
What is actual deadline now?
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2022-05-28, 08:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
Currently Wednesday June 1st. I've updated the OP to reflect it.
Last edited by The Viscount; 2022-05-29 at 09:53 AM.
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2022-05-29, 09:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
I think that should be the 1st, this coming Wednesday, which would be a 3 day extension and is what the OP says. Looks like the 15th is the judging deadline.
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2022-05-29, 09:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
Yes, that's what it should be.
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2022-05-31, 09:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
Zaq, Seward, or anybody other who want and can, while entries here aren't revealed, how do you look at proposal to judge a bit in the current Zinc Saucier round? Yes, it's slightly different from IC, but there are only two entries in this round. I and participants will be very glad if somebody would volunteer.
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2022-05-31, 08:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
As a heads up to any chefs still cooking: I likely won't be able to post the reveal until some time after 23:59 GMT tomorrow, so you will have some extra cooking time.
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2022-06-01, 03:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
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2022-06-01, 10:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
Sorry gang, really late day today. Won't have time to post the reveal. Hoping for tomorrow at around this time/a little before this time.
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2022-06-02, 09:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
Good for me! I have a decent chance to make it by the deadline, then.
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2022-06-02, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
If you could make anything and everything welcome to the Zinc Saucier XLV: Figaro
My competition's medals.
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2022-06-03, 08:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
Finally submitted my build. Kind of ran out of brain juice by the time I got to writing the tactics section - which is a shame, because I think this build is cute and could shine more if I was able to be as eloquent as I usually strive to be. Will probably hurt my scores here, but this one doesn't feel like a winner anyway. I'm overall happy with it, and I'm looking forward to seeing what everyone else did!
Screaming defiance with the last breath
It would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.
My judgments and medals!
The Iron Chef Optimization spreadsheet!
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2022-06-03, 10:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
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Orko, He-man & Battlecat (a Dragonfire Mount's Ubermount and its Ubermount)
Giant Dwarf, the Rock Superstar (a War Chanter build)
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2022-06-03, 11:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
Sorry, last night ran even later and I forgot to post before heading to bed.
The wait is now over! It's time for the reveal! (Please hold off on posting until the all clear.)Kolyarut Avatar by Potatocubed.
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2022-06-03, 11:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
We're all MAD here.
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2022-06-03, 11:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sek and violence in one post.
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2022-06-03, 11:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground CXIX
Laugh at my boner, will they?
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2022-06-03, 11:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Rule number 15: A hero is only as good as her weapon.
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2022-06-03, 11:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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In the words of every Gotham city tough, "It's da Bat!"
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2022-06-03, 11:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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"But why?" said the frog.
"Lol," said the scorpion. "lmao."
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2022-06-03, 11:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Not my sword. Our sword.
Originally Posted by AzumiKolyarut Avatar by Potatocubed.
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2022-06-03, 11:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Did you think of Pinky first, or did you think of Gwynharwyf?
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