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Thread: Small multiverses in fiction.
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2022-09-30, 11:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small multiverses in fiction.
Some are also game titles.
Ocarina of Time was the first TLoZ game on a 3D console, the Nintendo 64. Midway through that game, the Hero of Time is sent 7 years into the future. Then, at the end of the game, he is sent back to his original time period.
Majora's Mask was the second TLoZ game on the Nintendo 64. It takes place right after the events of Ocarina of Time, with the same main protagonist, but makes it clear that things are no longer headed toward the future that the Hero of Time witnessed.
Then there was The Wind Waker, on a new console called the Nintendo GameCube. This game takes place several generations after Ocarina of Time, with a new protagonist called the Hero of the Wind. But here is the kick: It is further into the future that the Hero of Time witnessed!
Phantom Hourglass was a game on the handheld Nintendo DS. It is a direct sequel to The Wind Waker, again featuring the Hero of the Wind.
Twilight Princess was released on both the Nintendo GameCube and its successor the Nintendo Wii. It features a new protagonist, the Hero of Twilight, and is harder to place in the TLoZ multiverse but is most likely taking place after Majora's Mask.
So there you have it: two timelines, each getting its own sequels. And that was just an example. There are other forks in the timelines.
Also, yes, all the heroes end up dressed in green and, while you choose their names when creating a save file, all are considered to be "Link" on some mystical level that may involve reincarnation or being the mortal avatars of some ancient heroic spirit.
Spoiler: And then there is Super Smash Bros.
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2022-10-01, 03:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small multiverses in fiction.
And then it turns out they faked us out and there were three timelines, with Link to the Past, the Oracle games, Link Between Worlds, and Zelda 1 and 2 following on from the Game Over screen of Ocarina of Time.
The only game that isn't explicitly placed on one of them is Breath of the Wild.
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2022-10-01, 05:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-10-01, 05:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small multiverses in fiction.
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2022-10-01, 02:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small multiverses in fiction.
BotW has a sidequest where you help three archaeologists with different theories of Hyrule's ancient past, each of which sounds like one of the official timelines. In the end you find evidence for all of them, and they agree that they may never know for sure.
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2022-10-01, 03:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that!
Also, a plot point of WW is that the fish-like zoras were transformed into the bird-like rito so they would stay away from the great evil now lying on the bottom of the ocean. But in BotW, the rito are somehow coexisting with the zoras.
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2022-10-02, 07:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small multiverses in fiction.
This web-comics technically kind of an example, although one that's not explored other universes.
You could possibly count Jasper Ffordes work, though there the different Universes are connected in various ways.
As said above, it requires interest and competence in at least two genres, plus puts quite a constraint on both works, plus the fans will have contradictory demands... (and demand ownership of the meta-universe).
So most people are probably only going to come into it for a novelty 'holodeck' episode and then spin off (or alternatively it blends into their main work).
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2022-10-03, 03:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-10-03, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small multiverses in fiction.
I always thought the explanation was something like "they evolved into birds to better survive in the flooded world", which obviously makes zero sense. Still a little weird that they didn't just kill the evil thing, but I guess the writers were hellbent on connecting the two races. Zelda lore is weird.
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2022-10-04, 03:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small multiverses in fiction.
"As said above" was references all the other comments with same themes.
I think that the Giant has made the "D&D based, Order of the stick" World/Universe one of a number of small Worlds/Universes the 'Gods' have made that each follow very different rules. And functionally that sounds like the sort of thing the OP described. Except that we as readers have basically next to no engagement apart from knowing that they 'exist', and the tiniest of tasters and that the 'Gods' take the appropriate form for the World, and lose their fight against the snarl.
(it appears they are embedded in the same time, you could argue the metaphysical nature)
Jasper Ffordes Nursery Crimes series takes place in the Town of Reading (which runs on crime fiction rules) which exists as a Book in Bookworld (which has it's own rules) which Thursday next jumps into from the 'real world' (there's also time travel etc... in this). The series definitely gets it's worth from the different worlds. On the other hand it doesn't have the clean structure of the OP (and is probably now confusing).
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2022-10-05, 01:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Except the other worlds in OOTS lore are past worlds, each of which existed sequentially. It's nothing like what the OP suggested of multiple universes through which a character could travel over the course of a story to get from Point A to Point B. The current OOTS world only exists because all the previous worlds have been destroyed. There is only one world in existence in the comic that anyone knows about (mysterious world within the Snarl's rift notwithstanding).
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2022-10-06, 11:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-10-09, 09:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small multiverses in fiction.
There's actually seven of them now. But I don't know when the last one was released. I read Red Orc's Rage back when it came out and wasn't too impressed. I read the latest one, More than Fire, a year or two ago, and hardly remember anything about it.
In case anybody is interested, the first five are really good. You can get all seven in ebook form from Barnes & Noble.'F' is the fire that rains from the Sky
'U' for Uranium, BOMB!
'N' is for No Survivors...