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2007-12-01, 11:58 PM (ISO 8601)Ettin in the Playground
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Best stuff from Tome of Magic
I just bought it today, and I'm looking for opinions of the best vestiges and mysteries. Lets say, the best vestiges of each level, and the best two paths of each category.
At the moment, I think Ebon Whispers (Flicker!) and Touch of Twilight for Apprentice, Dark Reflections and Ebon Roads for Initiate and Breath of Twilight and Eyes of the Night Sky for Master. I have no idea about vestiges other than that Orthos looks awesome.Thanks to Veera for the avatar.
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2007-12-02, 01:03 AM (ISO 8601)Firbolg in the Playground
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Re: Best stuff from Tome of Magic
What role in the party is your Binder trying to play? Binder is a very jack-of-all-trades class, perhaps even more so than Bard or Factotum. Different vestiges are needed for different roles.
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2007-12-02, 01:26 AM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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Re: Best stuff from Tome of Magic
That strikes me as a silly question. If he wanted to fill just one role, he wouldn't be playing a binder, now would he?What role in the party is your Binder trying to play?Aratos Tell
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2007-12-02, 01:45 AM (ISO 8601)Firbolg in the Playground
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Re: Best stuff from Tome of Magic
Fair enough. Then my answer to "which vestiges are best?" would be, "... most of them." Originally Posted by Skjaldbakka
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2007-12-02, 01:49 AM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Re: Best stuff from Tome of Magic
For pure numbers? Chucoplocs is the best Vestige, in my humble opinion. Ipos is awesome too, put them together with Ronove and grab the Power Attack/Leap Attack/Shock Trooper tree and the damage potention is ridiculous.
Naberius is amazing for pure simplicity, dealing with people is easy when you can rush diplomacy checks without taking -10. Karsus gives you a ridiculous amount of versatility, and binding Ashardalon (only vestige in another book, it's in Dreagon magic, but there ARE several vestiges in Dragon magazine and on the Wizards site) and Halphax makes you hard to kill.
Orthos, Andromalius, and Malphas together let you make touch attacks to do a whole bunch of Sneak Attack/Sudden Strike damage.
Pact Magic is my favorite part of the ToM, by the way :P that, and the Acolyte of the Ego.
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2007-12-02, 02:28 AM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Re: Best stuff from Tome of Magic
As I recall, Buer is solid at low levels. He's the healing vestige.
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2007-12-02, 05:35 AM (ISO 8601)Ettin in the Playground
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Re: Best stuff from Tome of Magic
What I saw, at lower levels, is that Savnok takes the lead in terms of numbers by a huge amount. Generally I play Binder's with Favored Vestige (I think it's that) for him. Also, the ability for a mysterious unarmored guy to suddenly magically sheath himself in gleaming bronze full plate is fun from an RP perspective
Summon full plate which you are proficient with, trade places with allies, DR/piercing...basically you are a tank. And the full plate becomes magical at higher levels.
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